Surprising nobody... Ring was basically the initial test for how much pushback there would be if the police were given direct access to everyones security cameras. And there was roughly zero pushback...
this post was submitted on 17 Oct 2025
137 points (99.3% liked)
Hacker News
2885 readers
316 users here now
Posts from the RSS Feed of HackerNews.
The feed sometimes contains ads and posts that have been removed by the mod team at HN.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
Surprising nobody, as in nobody really cares if they are unaware of being spied on. If the utility does what it says on the tin, that's as far as the thought process goes. They don't even know these things can be hacked or be part of state surveillance. People that go "hmm… wait it must be connected to the internet?" are really tiny part of the market.
As people are accustomed to think having the password/account, means one else can have access to it. It never crosses their mind.
It's like how much Chinese network devices are prevalent in the market. It kinda does what it says, but also sends your data to the mother ship.
Authoritarian governments think alike.
Glad I never had any interest in a Ring product
Don't worry, they have plenty of interest in you, like it or not.
That's my point. I never bought their products though, so that is what I can do to limit their ability to do anything about that interest.
How illegal would it be to setup a device to perpetually deauthenticate every wireless ring camera within range? Would this even work?
"Just for educational purposes"
I use a ring camera to keep an eye on my chickens.
What can I switch to? It seems everything these days is app based...
I've never used them so you'd need to research a bit as I only have experience with their gateways, but Unifi makes security equipment that I believe can run locally or be hosted to devices from your network
Maybe someone more knowledgeable than me can chime in if they have experience with their security ecosystem and how complex it is to use as you would a ring
I also don't have any experience yet, but unify also supports certified (I think) 3rd party cameras.
I was planning on getting one of those, as the unifi cameras are too expensive for what I want them for.
I actually use unifi for work, all my switches and waps.
I’ll take a deeper look at them for cameras, but they already more professional than I need.
BlueIris (software) is a good option, and I loke Amcrest cameras. Thats what I run for our ranch.
Its not to difficult to setup.
Louis Rossman is gonna be pissed
What are the best alternatives? Anything that can be entirely self-hosted and stored on a NAS? I haven’t looked into this in a while but cloud-based cameras seem like a huge problem.
Yes. It's not cheap, but you also don't need to absolutely break the bank. It is well worth it.