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Let's say better late than never.

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[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (5 children)

It should be illegal everywhere. Germany knows how to deal with Nazis (well, unless they're part of a party)

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Others were the ones who dealt with Nazis not Germany.

Let's not whitewash the forced compliance of Germany with what was imposed on them by the nations which had to fight them to stop them as some kind of achievement of Germany.

Germany kept most of the Nazis around - not the "upper management" but certainly the "middle management" and below - doing the jobs in the State appartus that they did before.

Probably explains both the rise of the AfD and how still now after Israel has been for over a year fully and unashamedly acting in a way painfully similar to Nazism - just with different ubermenschen and untermenschen (or as Israeli politicians say it, "chosen people" and "human animals") - almost the entirety of the German political class continues to unwaveringly support them, overtly because of the dominant ethnicity of that nation, a purely Racist rationale.

Change from the inside changes mindsets, change imposed from the outside mainly changes the visible expressions of the mindsets rather than the mindsets themselves.

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[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

I seriously believe that in an adult society you can set one or two historically damaging things aside from “freedom of speech.” I believe it was Trevor Noah who explained that when black people took back South Africa from its apartheid masters, they didn’t burn those people at the stake or prosecute them out of existence or even steal all their property. They just said you won’t be ruling this country like that anymore OH and that ONE WORD… you don’t get to say that ONE WORD ever again.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

It's too bad we can't make being a fucking idiot illegal, but then there wouldn't be anywhere near enough prisons.

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Censorship just hides it. Better would be to educate them. Make them meet with survivors, send them to the remaining concentration camps.

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[–] Doctor_Satan@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

There are about 2,500 Sudanese immigrants in Finland. Why not have a law criminalizing the Darfur genocide too? Or better yet, how about a law against denying any genocide in the furtherance of hate speech?

Unfortunately, I think I know the answer to these questions. I suspect it's related to the fact that Finland does not recognize the Palestinian state, unlike their neighbors in Norway, Sweden, and Iceland. A law criminalizing the denial of any genocide in the furtherance of hate speech would end up legally including the genocide in Palestine as soon as a case lands in a Finnish court. At that point, it would be really hard to defend their one-sided support of Israel, and lack of Palestinian state recognition.

[–] Shootingstarrz17@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (14 children)

Is Finland just as based as I think it is? They even got the homeless problem fixed. If only...

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