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[–] 109 points 1 year ago

I’m so used to bad news I read that as decriminalize

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  • [–] 94 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Fucking GOOD.

    Hopefully we'll also have laws against denying the holocaust israel is inflicting on palestine TOO.

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    [–] 73 points 1 year ago* (23 children)

    Good, but add Armenian and Gaza genocide denial to the list too. Or make it genocide denial in general.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    According to the bill, denial of the Holocaust or other serious international crimes, such as those defined under the statutes of the International Criminal Court, would be punishable by a fine or a prison sentence of up to two years.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (20 children)

    Armenian and Gaza is fully confirmed, but human rights violations of Xinjiang not so much, it's semantics at that much, like calling the modern Turkish state genocidal for destroying the culture of Kurds in northern Syria, when it was not explicitly to destroy the people itself

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    [–] 34 points 1 year ago

    I fucking love Finland.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I need people to pay attention to the popularity of denial of the mass killings by Nazis of transgender people. One of the doctors who performed the first vaginoplasty, on Dora Richter, did also go on to participate in brutal abuses in a concentration camp. Like a dung beetle, a group is rolling around this tiny kernel of truth, coalescing in a ball of shit that ends up like this.

    There’s something so vile about this. It has to be deliberate.

    DuckDuckGo and Google have always had at least one denialist result in every single Google search I have made about the Holocaust. Back in 2010 - in high school, I remember reading half of a book online which seemed to be the memoirs of an American World War 2 soldier, than abruptly realizing that he was starting to say some really strange things. Never anything quite wrong, but off. I did a little googling, a bit more research, and then started running into names like David Irving.

    It’s just such a damn difficult problem to fix. They are insidious. Deniers know that the Holocaust happened. They know that trans people were brutalized and massacred by the Nazis, whether you feel like the “purpose” of the mass killings makes it a genocide or not.

    They don’t care. They want stupid people to believe it, because then you can get the stupid people to look the other way. To laugh at people pointing out the patterns.

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    [–] 28 points 1 year ago

    JD Vance will be pissed.

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    According to the bill, denial of the Holocaust or other serious international crimes, such as those defined under the statutes of the International Criminal Court, would be punishable by a fine or a prison sentence of up to two years.

    https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/26868-finland-moves-to-ban-holocaust-denial-under-new-criminal-law.html

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (30 children)

    How many have there been? As far as I know it's "The Holocaust".

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Good, now criminalise Genocide denial.

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    [–] 14 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    It should be illegal everywhere. Germany knows how to deal with Nazis (well, unless they're part of a party)

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    Others were the ones who dealt with Nazis not Germany.

    Let's not whitewash the forced compliance of Germany with what was imposed on them by the nations which had to fight them to stop them as some kind of achievement of Germany.

    Germany kept most of the Nazis around - not the "upper management" but certainly the "middle management" and below - doing the jobs in the State appartus that they did before.

    Probably explains both the rise of the AfD and how still now after Israel has been for over a year fully and unashamedly acting in a way painfully similar to Nazism - just with different ubermenschen and untermenschen (or as Israeli politicians say it, "chosen people" and "human animals") - almost the entirety of the German political class continues to unwaveringly support them, overtly because of the dominant ethnicity of that nation, a purely Racist rationale.

    Change from the inside changes mindsets, change imposed from the outside mainly changes the visible expressions of the mindsets rather than the mindsets themselves.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Common nordic W

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    you will apply this law with the same rigour to every genocide right? right?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Based! Fuck Nazis

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