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In case you were worried about the roads being too safe, you can rest easily knowing that Teslas will be rolling out with unsupervised "Full Self Driving" in a couple days.

It doesn't seem to be going great, even in supervised mode. This one couldn't safely drive down a simple, perfectly straight road in broad daylight :( Veered off the road for no good reason. Glad nobody got badly hurt.

We analyze the onboard camera footage, and try to figure out what went wrong. Turns out, a lot. We also talk through how camera-only autonomous cars work, Tesla's upcoming autonomous taxi rollout, and how AI hallucinations figure into everything.

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[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 38 points 3 weeks ago

Good thing it doesn’t have LIDAR sensors on the front, repair would be much more expensive

Tap for spoiler/s

[–] lemmus@lemmy.world 37 points 3 weeks ago

Perhaps an “unauthorized modification” was made to the FSD stack. Maybe late at night. Possibly by a ketamine addict.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 35 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Flipping an EV is no small feat, especially a sedan. The damned center of gravity is basically at the middle of the wheels.

[–] KayLeadfoot@fedia.io 7 points 3 weeks ago

No kidding!

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 3 weeks ago

Ditches can make anything possible.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 32 points 3 weeks ago

Thank God elon defunded the agency overseeing his shitty cars

[–] deur@feddit.nl 21 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Y'know... I would suggest a decent proof of FSD being worthless garbage is the fact you'd think a car which can drive itself should probably be able to automatically stop itself.

Even when under manual control the car should be able to go "ah shit this aint the road anymore, those are some trees and a fence I'm headed towards way too fast" and try to stop and perform risk mitigating maneuvers.

After that we can talk about whether the car might be able to drive itself.

[–] KayLeadfoot@fedia.io 8 points 3 weeks ago

Oh RIGHT... THAT.

[–] Zomg@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Inb4 Elon tweets that this actually is a good thing, then tries to claim that the car will protect the driver from harm. Even though the car literally crashed itself 🫠

[–] KayLeadfoot@fedia.io 3 points 3 weeks ago

"wow, ummmmmm--" stares off into space for 5 ketamine-soaked seconds "... The cyber-airbags worked better than designed." - Elon

$TSLA: Rises 420.69% after-hours

[–] zeet@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

"Tesla, return to origin."

"Researching my origin... ... ... Oh my God... " screech

[–] firadin@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Here's a link directly to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frGoalySCns

Now here's a fun experiment: start from the beginning, and pause as soon as you think the car is about to do something dangerous. That's your correction time - I was probably front wheels off the road before I paused.

[–] KayLeadfoot@fedia.io 3 points 3 weeks ago

I was front wheels off the road by the time my reaction time hit the mouse button.

And a mouse button is faster to activate than a steering wheel :,|

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 6 points 3 weeks ago

what else was it suppose to do, its trying to be autonomous.

[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah well, machine learning for controlling cars works most of the time. Sometimes it doesn't.

[–] KayLeadfoot@fedia.io 11 points 3 weeks ago

That feels like a great reason to not apply machine learning to a problem.

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Does insurance cover that?

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 3 weeks ago

Nah, act of god, meaning act of an oligarch.

[–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 weeks ago

Someone has spoken against our glorious tech leader Elmo....

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Just wait for the "self-driving" tractor trailers...

[–] NOPper@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Aurora Innovation already has 20 trucks on a highway in Texas as a pilot program. Unlike Tesla's design, they don't rely on cameras and have LIDAR/RADAR all over the place.

[–] KayLeadfoot@fedia.io 3 points 3 weeks ago

I'm actually research Aurora right now for another piece.

Much better technical setup than Tesla. Tesla isn't even trying to apply their consumer FSD tech to their semi product.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Do you folks remember a DLC mission in watchdogs 2 ? Hmmmm....