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A Boring Dystopia

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I grew up listening to fundie christian parents babble at length how we were living in end times. And mocking them mercilessly (at first among my fiends, later to their faces) as often as possible.

Now look at us - on the brink of non-existence politically, environmentally, and civilizationally. Not sure that last one is a word.

If they were right I'm gonna have some 'splainin to do.

Dammit.

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[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's more that it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.

"The world will hate you," so you're antisocial and hateful in preparation. They do hate me! It's all true!

"There will be wars and rumors of wars," so you vote for the defense hawks supporting the military complex. So many wars! It's all true!

"They won't even tolerate your views, they'll try to outlaw it!" So you try to ban them first. It's all true!

Why protect the temporary environment when you have eternal paradise waiting? Why do ANYTHING meaningful here when you have eternal paradise waiting.

tl;dr: Death cult. Projection.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you spend your life wanting to see the end, eventually you will.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Not only that, but these bad things HAVE TO HAPPEN before the good things can come to pass. That's the order of operations. Which leads to seeing the bad things and thinking, "YES!!! It's haaaappeniiiiing!!!"

You literally welcome disaster, because it proves you right, rather than working to prevent it.

[–] aramova@infosec.pub 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Just sayin. These fools are walking right into it.

[–] ColeD@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Don't confuse coincidence for causation. For hundreds of years, people have been harping about the " end times." No 'splaining needed friend.

[–] TTH4P@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

America isn't the world. It's just a regime that will fall because of shortsightedness. If your Christian parents only think of the world as "America", then I don't think you owe them anything?

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If you predict it's the end times every day for a thousand years, eventually you'll get it right.

[–] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yes it's a death cult and we're locked in the basement.

[–] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If we're walking into oblivion it's because the christofascists are leading us there. It will be their self fulfilling prophecy.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The oldest human writings are lost to history. But we can be assured that they bitterly complained about the young generation and predicted that the world would end soon.

Sooner or later, one of the kooks will be right by coincidence.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

yeah but its all going downhill because of people like them. christians are complicit in the demise of democracy.

theyre causing their own doom so they can point it out. if they didnt exist, the world would be a better place.

theres a great meme somewhere where the rapture happens and the world is an amazingly better place for it.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Self proclaimed "Christians" don't necessarily represent the true beliefs.

James 1:27

"Religion that is pure and undefiled before God, the Father, is this: to care for orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself unstained by the world."

religion is itself a slippery slope greased with fantasy and hope created by men. when their major tomes require interpretation, any meaning useful to the con artist can be derived.

[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

It's been the "End Times" for the last 2000 years. They were full of shit then and they're full of shit now.

Their whole death cult is predicated on the world ending in a violent fiery ocean of blood so that they, the only good people who won't be damned to a burning torturous eternal punishment, will ascend to a paradise of everlasting Jonestown. It's sheer insanity. Malicious, cruel, psychopathic insanity.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's not too late to re-evaluate your beliefs tbh. I don't subscribe to the same brand of Christianity as my parents or as what you see happening in the USA, but you can actually have Christ without a lot of that mad fundie stuff, and incorporate into a more rational belief system. I recommend checking out InspiringPhilosophy on YouTube, he has a pretty rational way of explaining the faith. Or I am not rational at all because I still believe in a "skyfairy" according to internet atheists. Just don't think that being a mad fundie is the only way to be a Christian or necessary to receive forgiveness from God.

[–] werty@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't know why anyone needs forgiveness from god. Seems to me that god is the one who needs to be forgiven for creating all this suffering.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What suffering are you referring to?

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Suffering is literally everywhere, every day. People tortured, raped, beaten, killed. Disease is rampant as always. Ostensibly, Christians believe that god created everything the way he wanted. If that’s the case, he has some fucking explaining to do.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

People are tortured, raped, beaten and killed by other people. Disease is rampant in fewer places with worse medical care. Humans collectively have enough money to solve that problem but instead hoard it for themselves instead. It's us who have explaining to do to Him.

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

God created us in his image, no? Being omniscient and omnipotent, he has the power to stop those atrocities, right? If he doesn’t, he’s not God. If he does, he’s evil.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Personally, if I die only to find out that the Tyrant is real, I'll gladly walk into hell before I kneel my way into heaven. Fuck their narcissistic, cruel, inhuman monster of a god.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago

I would expect in that case "hell" is just a lie anyway, like an abuser telling you you can't live without them. It's classic controlling behaviour.

Realising that helped me walk away from the whole thing: Why are we told hell exists if it isn't real? Control.