Commiunism

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[–] Commiunism@beehaw.org 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I mean you say that, but...

  1. Western world has been living in liberal democracies for 100+ years, yet labor unions are weaker than ever (both in numbers and power), especially when compared to the union zeitgeist 100 years ago.

  2. Worker rights are no longer a hot button issue people rally behind, nowadays it's pretty much all about immigration, LGBT rights, taxation to a certain extent and whatever else. It's legitimately difficult to find a representative in most countries who cares about expanding worker rights and giving more power to unions - best you can hope for is someone who won't suppress them.

  3. Relying solely on voting to get expanded workers/union rights leads to passivity from the workers (as in them stopping to do anything outside electorialism to fight for themselves), and there's no guarantee they won't get rolled back later anyway as history shows, with infamous examples being Thatcher and Reagan administrations.

I could go on and make this unreadable, but essentially electorialism isn't the way to go when it comes to workers rights or especially when it comes to abolishing capitalism entirely.

That being said, your comment isn't entirely without merit as there's not that many movements nowadays actually fighting out there for better working conditions outside electorial politics. There are some international efforts though, like International Communist Party or Class Struggle Action who have helped to organize, keep strikes alive or spread propaganda to help the workers in their fight - small scale action but action nonetheless.

[–] Commiunism@beehaw.org 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That's never gonna happen, especially in Germany where the historically largest parties (both socdems and conservatives) can be essentially boiled down to "nothing ever happens". Hell, I even doubt that Die Linke would be able to do much if they were somehow magically the majority in the government.

[–] Commiunism@beehaw.org 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you want a better future, elect people who understand this properly and fight for workers rights.

Oh you sweet summer child...

[–] Commiunism@beehaw.org 4 points 1 week ago

Yes, that's implicit - you build something in order to use/live in it. The end I was talking about was referring to the end of the gradual transformation from capitalism to communism, it's not an instant process.

[–] Commiunism@beehaw.org 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It is, pretty much every communist including ML's here fully accept and support the notion that communism at the end is going to be stateless, as the state itself would become unnecessary. The differences come from the means which this end would be achieved.

[–] Commiunism@beehaw.org 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If we're talking about the big, rich EU counties, then yes. But for poorer ones, EU has genuinely fucked some of them over via imposing austerity and offloading debts onto the working classes of those nations, often via strong arming.

Greece is an explosive example of this, being fucked over by their incompetent government, sure, but also by Troika who literally strong armed them into taking bailouts fully knowing they wouldn't be able to pay them thanks to extreme austerity measures, leading into an even deeper crisis. When Greeks elected anti-austerity parties who resisted, Troika cut off Greek banks from emergency funding, leading them into a collapse and offered an even more predatory deal afterwards. Even when looking at the more successful crises (Ireland, Portugal, Spain, Italy, Cyprus), it's debatable whether or not Troika did more bad than good with their imposed austerity.

Wall of text, blah blah - EU is still overall good, don't get me wrong, but it's idiotic to say that they're free from criticism and anyone who does so is just deep in the propaganda.

[–] Commiunism@beehaw.org 5 points 2 weeks ago

Depends on context - if it's a yes/no question or something that can be replied to with a simple "great" or "okay", thumbs up serves as a "yes" or as a gesture that the person has read the message and doesn't have any problems with it.

It might be considered rude though for more complex discussions, where you need to respond in sentences

[–] Commiunism@beehaw.org 12 points 3 weeks ago

inb4 banks start to go bankrupt cause their gambling had gone too poorly and governments start bailing them out using workers tax money, like always

[–] Commiunism@beehaw.org 8 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

"if we all work together regardless of class" collaborationism is bourgeoisie propaganda and is not tolerated here, Comrade. Please face the wall.

[–] Commiunism@beehaw.org 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Not exactly accurate - the student protests are aligned with the opposition to Vucic, but the opposition is so incompetent, rather than taking the leadership role or supporting the protests directly, they're mostly sitting at the side lines and cheering.

This because once it gets political, government accuses them to be agents/sponsored/influenced.

Already happened, but the government says so much shit that nobody really cares.

[–] Commiunism@beehaw.org 16 points 3 weeks ago

Realistically, it's an impossibility. This view is mostly propagated via liberal news sources, having the main battle be conservatism vs progressivism or left vs right (as opposed to class struggle, the poor vs rich, working class vs capitalists), and since the democrats are more progressive than republicans, they're the "good guys" who should be supported.

For it to be destroyed, we'd have to catch up to their level of influence and reach or even surpass it, to show people that they're a party of capitalists who sometimes are progressive, and not an actual ally of the working or middle classes but only pretending to be one. Maybe going one step further too and influencing progressive movements democrats support to pay attention to economic aspects too, given how their root causes aren't purely social?

But again, it's impossible for us workers to have such reach, given how well funded media is.

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