juergen_hubert

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My players characters are currently exploring some truly ancient underground ruins of a sunken city (the setting is Ptolus, if it matters), and the PCs are trying to find the sites of some temples of various gods to explore.

Next up on the list are temples of ancient gods of knowledge and magic, and when I searched for thematically appropriate monsters to populate them, I came across Nothics. They have a pretty good base concept, but I need some more ideas to make exploring a ruin filled with them interesting. Things I am looking for in particular include:

  • D&D lore about the Nothics (this doesn't have to be from 5E)
  • Ways of personalizing them and their environment, emphasizing how weird and creepy they are
  • Variant stat blocks that might make encounters with them more interesting
  • Creatures that might co-exist with them

But feel free to throw any ideas you have out here - I am still in an early brainstorming phase!

I mean, I realize that the margins in the TTRPG industry are razor-thin.

Still, this doesn't sound like something that should require a lot of effort.

[–] juergen_hubert@ttrpg.network 5 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Yeah, but why should I be the one to do it, and not the company?

 

I buy a lot of digital RPG books - the shelf space in my apartment is ultimately limited, while the space on my hard drive is far less constrained (despite current storage prices). Furthermore, while the reading experience is still slightly better for physical books, I have a color e-ink reader which comes close enough for my purposes.

However, I do have a pet peeve with some RPG publishers: They refuse to give the files proper file names. Paizo is the worst offender among them, though not the only one.

I mean, I don't mind if the file name includes the product code. It's fine if a "PZO13008E" somewhere in there.

But please, for all that is unholy, make the file name "PZO13008E Hellfire Dispatches" instead of just leaving it at that! When I am making large purchases of multiple books - which I do frequently - I have to go on a renaming orgy:

  1. Open the file
  2. Check what product this file represents
  3. Close the file
  4. Rename the file

If the file name included the actual product title, I could skip steps 1-3.

[–] juergen_hubert@ttrpg.network 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

One possibility that might be interesting is if religions have some sort of ceremony that "marks" children for the afterlife of their religion, such as baptism for Christianity. Without this ceremony, the souls of children - or people in general - will develop into other types of spirits, instead of moving on to the afterlife.

As the linked story shows, religious parents could be very distraught if they thought that their children would not end up in the same afterlife as they did.

So what happens if the parents end up in different afterlives? It's certainly something to ponder.

 

While fantasy is a many-varied genre, religion in fantasy RPGs is often some mix-up of polytheism with Christian notions - including of the afterlife. The common assumption seems to be that while there are a multitude of gods, if you dedicate your life and belief in that god in particular you will end up in the specific afterlife of that god.

In Christianity, the situation is of course a bit more complex than that. One major precondition for entering the "good afterlife" (i.e. Heaven) is that you need to get baptized. For a long time, this left a rather awkward question mark for what happens to the souls of infants who died during or soon after birth - before they could receive a baptism. Folklore sometimes comes up with its own answers for that, but this was certainly a thing that people worried about.

RPG fantasy religions tend to deemphasize baptism since it's such an iconic Christian rite - but this only further emphasizes the question of what happens to the souls of children who died before they could actually express faith in a particular deity. Does any particular deity claim these children then? Perhaps a deity worshiped by a parent - and if so, of which parent (are there "afterlife child custody" court cases)?

Of course, a fantasy setting does not need to have an afterlife people believe in. But if there are multiple afterlives maintained by different deities (or at least, if people believe that such afterlives exist), then people will worry about that.

 

In letzter Zeit gibt es ja diesen Drang von Politikern, Altersbeschränkungen für "Social Media" einzuführen, was dann bedeuten würde, daß man für Social Media-Plattformen seine Identität nachweisen müsste - eine hervorragende Gelegenheit für diese Plattformen, noch mehr Benutzerdaten zu sammeln.

Das Fediverse ist glücklicherweise nicht darauf ausgerichtet, solche Altersnachweise einzuziehen. Aber dennoch macht das die Situation für die Betreiber von Instanzen schwierig, da sie sich dann potentiell strafbar machen.

Jetzt würde mich interessieren: Gibt es in den deutschsprachigen Ländern irgendwelche juristisch klaren Definitionen von "Social Media", mit denen man klar identifizieren könnte, ob eine Fediverse-Anwendung als solche zählt oder nicht?

Z. B. betreibe ich einen WordPress-Blog mit dem ActivityPub-Plugin. Zählt das schon als "Social Media"?

Wer hier kennt sich mit dieser Thematik aus?

 

So far, my ire at the Merz cabinet has primarily been focused on Katherina Reiche. But then I discovered that Wolfram Weimer is truly horrible, too.

[–] juergen_hubert@ttrpg.network 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I 100% understand any culture I make up, definitionally.

If true, that's very impressive indeed. Every custom, every belief, every fashion, every turn of speech? I study folklore - "culture" is a many-headed beast, and fractal.

I doubt that even Professor Tolkien truly understood the cultures of Middle-Earth "100%".

In many cases, the player characters are themselves unfamiliar with that culture, in which case any mystery, mistakes, miscommunications etc are valuable in-character roleplay. And when the PCs *would *be familiar with a relevant aspect of a given culture, you can simply tell them that detail, no need to loredump everything.

I do believe that player should be able to gain a basic understanding of the cultures their characters come from. The question is how much information can they get, and process?

As an example, consider Glorantha with its many intricate cultures. The players don't need to know everything about the setting - indeed, it is so complex that few people have even read the majority of the source material. However, it is essential that they understand what their home culture believes, and how members of that culture expect the characters to act.

 

The practice of using fantasy counterpart cultures - cultures and societies that are very similar to real world cultures of specific times and places - has a long history in fantasy in general, and fantasy RPGs in particular.

And, in truth, there are good reasons for that. Fantasy worldbuilding is a major task, and fantasy worldbuilding for RPGs in particular requires that not only the GM understands any given culture, but the players as well - but understanding a culture requires a lot of effort, and there is only so much time everyone at the table has available for that.

Thus, using familiar elements is a great time saver. The main reason we see the same Tolkien ancestries over and over again (elves, dwarves, halflings, orcs...) is that most players of fantasy RPGs are already familiar with their basic concepts, and thus only have to learn what is different from the norm. But you create fantasy ancestries from scratch, you need to convey all that information to the players.

The same applies to fantasy counterpart cultures - if you have a vague familiarity with the real world culture, then familiarizing yourself with a fantasy culture will be a lot easier.

However, there's also a lot that can go wrong with using fantasy counterpart cultures. Misrepresentation is always a danger, especially with marginalized groups and if the developers did not consult with members of that culture. Likewise, if you are building a fantasy counterpart culture of a nation that has some ugly history, then you risk whitewashing that history.

So what are your thoughts? Do you like to have fantasy counterpart cultures in your settings, or do you prefer to avoid them? And what are some good examples of fantasy counterpart cultures done right?

[–] juergen_hubert@ttrpg.network 3 points 2 months ago

This was my very first RPG, back in 1990.

The first piece of advice: Don't have player character deckers. Make them NPCs. The decking rules are a horrible, horrible mess that takes the action away from the table.

 

Fantasy RPG settings have almost always drawn inspirations from real world cultures, including real world folklore and mythology. This also includes fantastic creatures, which are a staple of monster manualy since the earliest days of D&D.

And in recent years, there have been more and more efforts to draw TTRPG inspiration from non-European sources - a trend I approve of, since we can always use more diverse sources of inspiration.

However, I am curious how you all use creatures from different cultures in your fantasy campaigns and worldbuilding. I could see a few different approaches:

Do you assume "counterpart fantasy cultures" for your world? I.e. is there a Not!Europe, Not!Asia, Not!Africa, Not!Mesoamerica etc., each of which has "culturally appropriate" supernatural creatures? In such a situation, supernatural creatures would largely stick to their "home region", and occasional "guest stars" in other regions would be noteworthy. This works well, but it does mean you are usually limiting yourself to a "culturally appropriate" subset of the creatures in the books.

Alternately, you could try to integrate these creatures into whatever cultural region your campaign focuses on. In my view, this would require some rewriting in how these creatures are portrayed and/or named - if your region has a culturally English or Germanic slant, then having creatures that are called "Sramana", "Betobeto-san", or "Tzitzimitl" (to pick three examples from the recent Monster Core 2 for Pathfinder) will seem strange.

I feel there is no "right" or "wrong" approach to this, but I am curious how you are tackling this issue.

[–] juergen_hubert@ttrpg.network 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah, as a German the settlement patterns within most D&D settings looked deeply weird to me. But for all of its pseudo-European trappings, D&D owes at least as much to the tropes of the "Wild West" genre.

[–] juergen_hubert@ttrpg.network 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The problem is that cities are usually dependent on the resources of the surrounding countryside. You have to protect the fields and the mines as well, unless you can somehow produce all that stuff within the city walls.

[–] juergen_hubert@ttrpg.network 1 points 2 months ago

Keith Baker always encouraged this kind of creative reskinning of classes.

And, of course, the privilege of superbeings has been explored in #ttrpg before, such as in the setting of Aberrant.

 

Another one of my pet peeves about fantasy world building is the concept of "large cities surrounded by miles and miles of howling wilderness" (looking at you, Forgotten Realms!) While such cities aren't completely unknown in real world history ("oasis towns" in particular, they are and were very rare. Most real world cities are surrounded by a network of smaller settlements, and while you can come up with reasons for why a fantasy city is truly isolated, a setting will be more plausible if that is a rare exception.

So, what is a good way of developing settlement patterns in fantasy worlds?

A concept I found useful for worldbuilding purposes is that of the "Central Place Theory", which describes the notion that settlements of different sizes support each other. (And I first came across it in the WFRP 1E rulebook, of all things!) While this theory is not free criticism, I feel that it yields results that are plausible enough. In order to adapt it for fantasy purposes, I propose the following categories:

  • Villages are mostly inhabited by farmers and other food producers, although there might be a few specialist trades such as millers and village blacksmith. They are self-sufficient when it comes to food production, but need to trade for more complex tools. Using Central Europe as an example, it rarely takes more than an hour or two to travel to the next village.
  • Towns have markets where the farmers can sell their produce, and thus are rarely more than a day's worth of travel away from any given village. They are administrative centers and can produce most of the tools that the rural population needs for daily survival. However, they are also part of a network of long-distance trade, selling surplus from their own region and buying items that are rare in the local area. Each town is supported by a small network of villages, without whom it would starve.
  • Finally, Cities are major trade hubs and centers of craftsmanship. They will support multiple specialized trades and might be famous throughout the country (or beyond) for things they produce. Just like each town is supported by a network of villages, each city is supported by a network of towns.

In other words, when you place a city on a map, think about the network of towns and villages that support it. Depending on the scale of the map, you might not bother to place them all - but you should remember that they are there, instead having the wilderness start close to the city walls.

Which brings me to another point - real world history didn't have much in the way of "monster-infested wildernesses", but these are a staple of fantasy world - and they are a further reason why such dense settlement patterns might develop. After all, a lonely settlement is easy pickings for monsters - but a network of settlements can defend each other. If a single village faces monsters that are too tough for the inhabitants, they can ask for help from the next town or even city, who likely have specialist tools (and people) for that kind of thing.

In worlds where dangerous monsters roam the wilds, you could even make the argument that human(oid) civilization is not viable of the network of settlements is too thin - thus, you have "clusters of civilization" huddling together, while the wilds are full of lost settlement that could not be defended any more...

So, what are your thoughts on this? Have you put any consideration into settlement patterns for your own fantasy settings?

[–] juergen_hubert@ttrpg.network 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Eberron is one of my favorite DnDoid settings, precisely because the designers put a lot of thoughts into this stuff.

[–] juergen_hubert@ttrpg.network 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Seoni, the "Iconic Sorcerer" from the Pathfinder RPG.

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One of my pet peeves of modern fantasy media is the notion that some people are "special" - and thus implied to be "better" - than other people because of some inherent magical ability. One of the best-known modern examples of this is the Harry Potter franchise, where the protagonists are mostly mages, and even the characters who actually care about the welfare of the latter do so in an extremely patronizing way - i.e. by stopping the "bad mages" rather than working together.

In #dnd and similar #ttrpg, the concept is represent by the "sorcerer" and similar characters who gained their cool powers from some innate birth ability rather than study and hard work.

And while there is nothing wrong with wanting to play such a character, just for once I would like to see an in-setting examination of what it means to have this privilege, instead of the more common:

"Oh no, woe is me, I have been born with special powers and will be hated and persecuted for them. Thus, I must spend most of my time in a secret society with my fellow very special people!"

To be clear, people born with privilege did not ask to be born with privilege, and cannot be blamed for that. However, they should also acknowledge that they have this privilege, and not assume that they are somehow "better" than people without it.

[–] juergen_hubert@ttrpg.network 3 points 2 months ago

I rarely have buyer's regret for TTRPG products, but Carcosa ranks high on that list. The "Sorcerous Rituals" section is maybe worst - do we really need a detailed list of how sorcerers sacrifice humans to work their magic? Not to mention one ritual ("Consign to the Lightless Lake") where the sorcerer actually rapes his victim.

I will never buy anything from Geoffrey McKinney again.

 

Seriously. Every form of entertainment has baked-in political assumptions, and that definitely includes #ttrpg . You might choose not to examine them, but this is an active choice on your part, and you don't get to pretend that your entertainment is "free of politics".

 

Looking back at my past campaigns, the ones I've had the most fun running (and which were arguably the most successful) were the ones where the PCs could take a fairly sandboxy approach to exploring a wilderness region. I'd like to develop a new campaign like this again one day, but what I could use for such a campaign is an interesting premise. I am ruling the following premises out:

  • Adventurers plundering old ruins for profit: Too trite.
  • Adenturer-archeologists uncovering the deep history of the region for academic bragging rights: A lot of fun, but I have done this before.
  • Making the region "safe" for colonization and settlement: While the whole concept of "colonizing the frontier" provides plenty of interesting background drama for a campaign that I don't mind exploring, it is too ethically dubious to make the PCs take the side of the colonizers by default.

So, what other premises can you come up with that provide a justification for player characters to hang around a frontier region and explore it?

 

The PCs will soon be entering their first "Megadungeon". And I want to emphasize how dangerous this environment is - not by throwing them into meatgrinder fights, but by having them come across the remains of earlier adventurers who died horribly. And I could use some suggestions from others!

Here are the rules:

First, describe the scene - whatever the PCs are seeing.

Second, describe what actually happened in case the PCs investigate and make some successful skill rolls, use divinatory magic, and so forth. Here is an example:

1. The PCs come across a chain mail which has seen some battle damage but is largely intact, as well as the blade of a handaxe. Both are covered by a thin green-white residue. Searching further, they come across a belt buckle and a small number of coins, all of which are likewise covered in residue.

(A gelatinous cube came across the body of an adventurer, digested everything organic, and left the metal parts behind.)

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