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[–] darkcalling@hexbear.net 21 points 3 days ago

Yes but sadly only in a deranged anti-Russian conspiratorial "evil Russian commies led by Putin-Stalin-Hitler are destroying our democracy, we gotta nuke em" type way not a loss of faith in liberalism or introspection about what America is type way.

I'm sorry to go to Star Wars posting but there is something to be said about the understanding that the rebellion failed to win the peace because they just reproduced and tried to bring back the same failed republic which predictably failed again. These liberals are just trying to reproduce and bring back some imagined working, utopian version of liberalism and US-American political structure they imagine existed in the 20th century until around Obama and the big reactionary tantrum and/or Trump winning. They will inevitably not roll anything back meaningfully because Democrats aren't interested in using power first of all and also because they have no revolutionary program they could use to do that so they'll win elections again then be confused and angry and ever more conspiratorial about foreign enemies such as Russia/China as to why they can't get things to go back to the good old days.

It's a reflected image of American reactionary thought, really a different strain of reactionary "return" type yearning and propaganda which will be used to justify rigid adherence to militarism, imperialism, etc because those are still strong "institutions" in the American sense and they have been taught and still venerate them and believe in venerating them those institutions will save them from the scary Trump types and their imagined Putin/China foreign antagonists.

This conveniently leads them right into red scare type thinking and fearful belief in anything the military-intelligence propaganda mill pushes about other nations. It's an antibody being created against increased exposure to how good things are in China and how bad things are in the US. A way to get them broadly onboard with censorship of any positive coverage of "bad nations"[tm] on the internet and the creation of an American firewall and internet censorship board to keep Americans in the dark or as they would phrase it "protect them from sinister Russian/Chinese disinformation campaigns" which they believe can sway elections and turn ordinary otherwise good folks into dangerous types who want to turn America into a dictatorship.