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[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I would be curious to see the numbers but I don't think the pro Palestine protest voters cost the Democrats the election. It definitely didn't help, but the Dems shat the bed in way more ways than just the Palestine situation.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

If they did, then all the neolibs were wrong that voters don't care about Palestine...

Which logically means the party needs to move to the left at least enough so that genocide isn't acceptable.

Instead, they act like fucking trump supporters and brag that a genocide is still happening.

There's zero logic or empathy with them, which is why some people call them "blue maga".

They're the ones that didn't stop watching CNN even after the new buyers blatantly and publicly said their goal was to become the fox news if he left.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Pro-Palestine protest votes didn't cost the Dems the election, but that a single group was not the deciding factor in a contest does not absolve them of responsibility. IE single-issue pro-Israel voters probably were not the reason for Trump's victory, but they still deserve a portion of the blame in voting for Trump.

And many of these selfsame pro-Palestine protest vote types are continuing their dumbass games even as Trump greenlights fascism both at home and abroad - like everyone fucking told them he would.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

And many of these selfsame pro-Palestine protest vote types are continuing their dumbass games even as Trump greenlights fascism both at home and abroad - like everyone fucking told them he would.

The dimbass games are posts like this instead of arguing for civil disruption and actions beyond elections. The protesters entire point was the election won't stop the genocide either way and further action is needed. Trying to bait them into an argument about an election that's already fucking over serves nothing. Unless you don't care about the issue in the first place and just want to be divisive about it.