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[–] MrNesser@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (3 children)

They just triggered another 20 years of terrorism

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The other person already pointed this out, but resistance against foreign occupation isn't terrorism no matter how much Western governments want it to be.

[–] MrNesser@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A good point that the US leaves behind constantly.

Here's another one any action in the middl east always prompts a response from multiple other sources regardless of the territory or regime targeted.

Iran itself has spent decades building networks of foreign fighters who would be classed as terrorists.

It's own soldiers have been caught sponsoring and training these people with the intent to attack and destabilise countries in the west.

I do not agree with the aggression from Israel or the US but do not ever paint Iran as a saint of a country.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 0 points 1 week ago

That's probably less legible than you intended it to be.

Here's another one any action in the middl east always prompts a response from multiple other sources regardless of the territory or regime targeted.

Okay? That's called solidarity and it's a good thing last I checked.

Iran itself has spent decades building networks of foreign fighters who would be classed as terrorists.

Based on what criteria?

It's own soldiers have been caught sponsoring and training these people with the intent to attack and destabilise countries in the west.

Example?

I do not agree with the aggression from Israel or the US but do not ever paint Iran as a saint of a country.

They're not, but that has nothing to do with your initial claim.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"terrorism"

When people don't want to be slaughtered and have their resources stolen by imperial invaders it is "terrorism". When the same invaders are doing their invasions, mass murder civilians, threaten total annihilation and the like, it is "security" or "bringing democracy"...

It can be a just cause and terrorism at the same time.

For example, Nelson Mandela and others used textbook terroristic tactics to defeat the SA Apartheid regime, making them terrorists.

Whether or not the objectively just ends justify the means in the cases of South Africa, Palestine, and other oppressed is separate from whether or not the means qualify as terrorism.

For the record, I don't personally believe that terrorism is justified when there's any other way to fight back against your oppression, but am with you in not condemning the oppressed when there isn't.

Also, the military actions of Israel and the US in the Middle East are themselves textbook cases of state terrorism, which this will ALSO be an increase of.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean they did hijack planes and flew them into office buildings, killing a ton of civilians. It's not a reach to call that terrorism lol

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Who is "they"? the 9/11 attack was committed by mostly Saudi nationals under leadership of the (former) CIA assets Osama bin Laden (also Saudi).

You know which country the US didn't attack in its "war on terror"? Saudi Arabia.

Instead the US attacked / attacked in: Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria, Yemen, Somalia, Libya

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Major_military_operations_of_the_War_on_Terror.svg

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Who is "they"?

Uhhh, ever heard of Al-Qaeda??

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Equating Iran and Al-Qaeda and more generally categorizing all "brown people" as more or less the same is like saying Guatemala is "they" with the US because they are on the same continent.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee -1 points 1 week ago

I wasn't equating anyone though, just saying the people who did 9/11 were absolutely terrorists

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago

Hurrah cheap oil! /s