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We've started putting NO RIGHT ON RED signs at intersections, and motorists are still running over pedestrians!
You can't design away stupidity. The danger is people behind the wheel of these aerodynamic tanks.
You can't design away stupid, but if this is a regular problem then the intersection is designed stupid and you need to design a better one.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/201978334-killed-by-a-traffic-engineer
@futatorius @drkt_ basically every (successful) safety feature in anything is an example of designing away stupid (plenty of examples where it designs *in* stupid too, though). And just as important, designing away tired/distracted. Everyone makes mistakes, even when they're not idiots. It's this isn't it https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hierarchy/_of/_hazard/_controls
@futatorius@lemm.ee also replying to you
I think there's been a semantic misunderstanding -
I'm saying that people are going to be stupid and you should design an intersection that accounts for it. I don't think that's 'designing away stupid' because the stupid is still present. It has merely been limited or entirely contained, but I don't want to have a semantic argument. Just understand that we agree, and the book I reference says almost exactly what you both said.
@drkt_ @futatorius gotcha. In your example "designing away stupid" sounds like it might be... well... eugenics. Very much happy to agree that that doesn't work.