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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They linked an article about Ukrainians executing POW's. That is a directly applicable comparison to this post.

They mocked you because you are making up things they did not say.

[–] TiggerYumYum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Okay. You didn't read the articles I linked and you don't mention or seem to understand why the historical context is relevant and important to that incident.

I don't even think you read that article they linked, because it comes from Russian sources with no independent verification. Most likely it is propaganda. Is it still directly applicable? Am I still the one making stuff up? Keep on defending tankies though.

9 hours later and still waiting on your response about how Russian propaganda that's unverified by any independent source is "directly applicable"?? Almost like you're a liar.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

None of the articles you linked imply Russia is currently committing genocide in Ukraine. A list of past genocides including the Nazis has little relevance on the present. Except that you are admitting the current invasion is not a genocide... because it is not on the list you linked.

Calling everything tankie is not an argument and you should stop doing it.

[–] TiggerYumYum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Okay you definitely didn't read them then. In the last section of Genocide in Ukraine:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_genocide_of_Ukrainians_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War

Love how you ignore the propaganda part of their article while misrepresenting and cherry picking Nazis in mine. Very cool. I'm going to tag you as "Poor literacy" and move on with my day.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You are in for a massive self-own by using Wikipedia.

Your page says "allegations by organisations". This means there is no consensus of a genocide taking place.

This js what an actual Wikipedia article of a genocide looks like:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide

[–] TiggerYumYum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

"According to a United Nations special committee, Amnesty International, and many other experts and rights organisations, Israel has committed genocide against the Palestinian people during its ongoing invasion and bombing of the Gaza Strip as part of the Gaza war.[34][35][36]"

"According to multiple national governments,[17][18][19][20] international organisations,[21][22][23][24] independent experts and media outlets,[25][26][27] Russia and its ally Belarus are committing genocide against the Ukrainian people as part of the ongoing Russo-Ukrainian War,"

The very FIRST sentences in the articles. The only self-own here was you by only reading the headlines. Again, very poor literacy. Both are still ongoing and that is how language works.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Notice the difference between my sources: independent international bodies and your sources: pro-Ukraine organisations.

Ukraine can ask the UN for an investigation if they believe they have case. But they will not do that and we both know why.

Here is another source proving me right: literally Wikipedia

It’s not close’ - Israel committing genocide concludes Wikipedia ending editorial debate

[–] TiggerYumYum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The ICC is currently investigating and has issued arrests already. Not sure what you're talking about, just nonsense. I guess they're pro-Ukraine right? What a handwave away lol. This conversation is becoming a joke, especially since you're still ignoring the propaganda article the other user posted. No comment on it at all. That source didn't prove you right. It just proved that Wikipedia added Gaza to their list of genocides. Ukraine is currently getting there.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Arrests for war crimes not genocide.

Ukraine is currently getting there.

What do you think is taking Wikipedia so long? Ukraine was invaded two years before the genocide in Gaza.

Are Wikipedia editors, the UN, and Amnesty International Tankies?

[–] TiggerYumYum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Do you truly believe Wikipedia is the end all-be all of whether or not a genocide is occurring? Can you not think for yourself?

What do war crimes lead to?

What about the Russian propaganda article you still won't comment on, ya know, the very thing that started this chain? What is taking YOU so long?

Are you a tankie? Starting to seem like it.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It appears no matter how many facts you are presented with you are unable to face reality and admit you are wrong.

Wikipedia and the UN and Amnesty International are all tankies. Everyone who disagrees with you is a tankie. Have a very tankie day.

[–] TiggerYumYum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Oh that's rich.

Still waiting on that response about the unverified reports by Russia? The thing your entire argument started with? Where are those independent sources? Are those "facts"?

[–] TiggerYumYum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Still waiting for that response to the Russian propaganda article that wasn't verified by independent sources. You're very pro-independent sources right? Or is that only when it bolsters your argument?