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Which instances have the most diverse points of view? (lemmy.world)

submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by 13esq@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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Since Trump, I'm finding the Lemmy.world experience to be increasingly akin to an echo chamber and it's quite frankly starting to bore me. (Inb4, I'm a left winger and I don't like Trump, but I'm much more interested in a good spirited debate or novel points of view than I am in Orange man bad Nazi circle jerks)

If I wanted the same repetitive comments to be upvoted and any different opinion at all to be downvoted and even blocked/banned, I'd have just stayed on Reddit.

Are there any instances where different, opposing and novel points of view are celebrated and debated rather than simply derided and downvoted?

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[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 0 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I think you are going to have a hard time finding a place to talk with a group that overall deals in bad faith arguments and hate speech. They also tend to silo themselves off to their own platforms over concerns that their hate speech gets them moderated (because Free Speech != does not mean speech without consequences or needs to be tolerated by everyone).

If you really want to see the MAGA "point of view" you are probably better off going to them on Truth Social, Gab, 4chan, The_Donald, etc.

[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

This is kind of the derision that I'm talking about. (I am assuming that you are talking about the right wing). Whilst there is some truth to it, you disagreeing with them or their arguments doesn't mean that it isn't interesting, or worthy of discussion or debate.

I do agree that hate speech should be banned and that isn't what I'm interested in.

I'm not interested in the MAGA point of view per se, I'm interested in a diverse spectrum of ideas and opinions that reflect a real cross section of society, where undoubtedly some of them will be MAGA people. Whereas there is a very strong left leaning bias here.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

.world is very liberal, it isn't really accurate to call it "left leaning." You aren't going to find many MAGA people on the fediverse.

[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

In the UK there is some similarity between liberal and left wing ideas, despite them being distinct political groups. Liberalism was originally seen as very left wing, a lot of people are now arguing that there is more in common with right wing politics, small state and such.

I'd say my experience here has been much more left wing than liberal though, just my opinion.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

Liberalism was only "left" when Capitalism was progressive, which was only true in comparison to Monarchism and Feudalism. Liberalism is a firmly Capitalist ideology, while Socialism is leftist.