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You want the election to have been about Republicans versus Democrats so that you can blame non-voters or anti-genocide voters, whomever.
Democrats and those who repeat their arguments simply needed to do better. They needed better policies to run on and needed to do something other than "Republicans bad" as rhetoric. "Republicans bad" when a persons life gets just as worse under Democratic rule as it does under Republican rule falls flat.
Blaming people who didn't vote: You will lose us another election if you continue with this, and you've now been notified. You won't be able to deny accountability if you continue with this strategy to rhetoric.
The difference between the two parties was not just insignificant policy difference. You had one side literally boost hatred on a Haitian community, that was loud in their Nazi and authoritarian rhetoric. You are not applying the reflection needed to understand that when one side is like that and you don’t vote against it then you are also the problem.
Sure. And who did you convince with that argument that wasn't already voting for the Democrat?
You want me to be someone who didn't vote or didn't vote Democrat, but bruh. I've put more time and money into Democratic campaigns, working directly with candidates them elected, than you probably ever will in your entire life. I've been on stage with Katie Porter. I personally have dialed the number of almost every fucking veteran in Rashida Tlaibs district to do wellness checks during COVID. Rashida won her district with 70% support. She was extremely critical of both the Democrats and Israel. 🤔
Vote harder is a failure of electoralism. Blue no matter who DOESNT WORK as rhetoric. You WILL get another Republican elected if you keep at it. "Strategic voting" isn't strategic if it costs you the game.
IYou want to pretend you've got some kind of moral high hand. Blaming voters; not trying to understand them and address the real criticism that the Biden presidency was kind-of a joke and didn't really do shit for people: The insistence that we should just "vote our interests" by voting Democrat: it cost us our democracy.
and you are basically insisting on doing it again.
You again fail to see my point, which is logic based. Its not vote blue no matter who. Its a simple task of pros and cons and actually paying attention to the rhetoric of both sides. In my view this is where the non-voters actually failed and they need to learn from their mistake. The pros and cons for those that appreciate democracy and don't ascribe to the hate that the right pumped out would have been a better way to ensure as a voter you knew what was at stake.
No one is missing your point. You are simply too obtuse to realize its consequences. Its also obvious that you aren't incapable, but simply unwilling to understand this main point. You want the world to be an a way which it isn't and because of that we lost an election. And to be clear, you are in no manner unique in holding that perspective. Your argument, was the core argument that almost all of the DNC infrastructure was relying upon to convince voters to show up last November: and it cost the US its democracy.
Yeah, we know dude. We've been over this. Ad nauseam. Your world view is wrong. Like its just straight up wrong. As in, it has no basis in reality.
Your worldview results in wrong outcomes (based on the charitable assumption you actually wanted to win the election).
You want voters to be different than they are: but they aren't. You want elections to work differently than they do: but they don't.
Having a view that doesn't map to reality: thats at the core of the problem Democrats faced last November.
They didn't want to meet voters where they were. They didn't want to address voters concerns on the voters grounds. They didn't want to hear criticism. They didn't want the candidate to have to move to where the voters were. They wanted the voters to move to where the candidate was. They didn't want to convert non-voters into voters by addressing their grievances with the current state of things. They didn't want to address the fact that Democrats were deeply unpopular with voters and non-voters alike.
But thats not how the world works. And any one could have told you that the above strategy, and more general, approach to interpreting the world and understanding the outcomes and consequences of decisions, any one since Aristotle could have told you that this would obviously fail.
You can't just completely fail to enumerate the board, the pieces, and their positions correctly, fail, and then complain that its the board or the pieces who are wrong because you didn't want to even look to understand how the game was set up.
You are blaming the board and the pieces for losing a game.
Sorry, your points still don't sway me. To learn and move past what happened, the non-voters need to take a large portion of the blame. Otherwise you are only pandering to their apathy, without them acknowledging this simple error on their part then the US will repeat this same error in the future.
Edit: I will add I have seen more self reflection and growth from former Republicans who realise that they fucked up by supporting him in the first place. A concept you and those non-voters are failing to grasp.