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The Perfect Private Messenger (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 week ago by hereforawhile@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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What's the closest thing we have to a perfect private messanger?

In my mind the perfect private messanger is both completely secure, and also completely anonymous.

All the mainstream messengers can pretty much ensure the contents of the message will not be revealed....but that is not good enough. I want to be able to deploy and establish a completely anonymous AND private channel of communication on a dime without having to jump through extreme operational security hoops.

Does it really exist?

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[–] florencia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 1 week ago (9 children)

SimpleX is currently the best one possible.

All the security of signal without needing a phone number.

Everything can be through tor. Contact link can be formed with a one time use code that you DM someone privately.

Anything more advanced and you're basically in internet dead drop territory. An encoded message on a pastebin through tor. Congratulations, you've entered pedophile/terrorist level security realm.

[–] hereforawhile@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Simplex does check alot of those boxes... but smp traffic is easily identifiable unless your jumping through the major hoops of establishing a totally anonymous proxy.

An encoded message on a pastebin through tor. Congratulations, you've entered pedophile/terrorist level security realm.

Thats to bad being anonymous and secure puts you in that category. It shouldn't!

[+] florencia@lemmy.blahaj.zone -23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Honestly, pedos & terrorists get the whole world cooperation on doxing them. So if they're not using a tool or method then it's not proof against nation states.

Why the need for complete anonymity though? Literally only pedos operate at that level so that nobody can squeal on the others if they are busted (they inevitably need to mess up a real kid because their CSAM isn't good enough).

[–] LytiaNP@lemmy.today 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This kind of mindset is what make the privacy community seem like outcasts. Yes, pedophiles and other criminals would benefit from complete anonymity, but that does not mean we should draw the line at how anonymous someone gets to be because “only pedos operate at that level”.

[–] rirus@feddit.org 18 points 1 week ago

Journalist and human rights activists are criminals in certain circumstances. Being a criminal doesn't mean they are bad.

[–] 9limmer@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 week ago

Journalists and activists can make good use of top security.

[–] Corridor8031@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

"Antifa" are terrorists in the usa now

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