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[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 76 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Same with raspberrypi really.
companies just can't seem to know how to grow without line go up mentality.

[–] TheOneCurly@feddit.online 86 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's just it, you don't need to grow. Just sell a useful product at a reasonable price.

[–] AreaKode@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In capitalism, the consumer isn't the target audience. A business exists to make money. The more money you make, the more shareholders you gain, the more the shareholders demand BLOOD!

[–] mech@feddit.org 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No one forces you to sell shares.

[–] zeca@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] firelizzard@programming.dev 9 points 1 week ago

If you own the company, no one can force you to sell shares.

[–] mech@feddit.org 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

???
You don't need to take your company public, you know?
You can just stay its sole owner, then no one can force you to do anything with it (except for a judge).

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] mech@feddit.org 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Any country which has the concept of private property, and a relatively robust political and legal system.

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

We recently had to get rid of a vendor at work because the private company was bought out by a foreign power. Can't say more than that. Kinda sucks as now we have to replace some of the infa.

[–] Raxiel@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Against their will? Or did they make a choice because the offer was too good?

[–] zeca@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Depends on the laws. In certain situations, you may be forced to sell part/all of you company.

Besides the legal ways, someone may threaten you or something demanding that you sell it, its not impossible.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 4 points 1 week ago

I think that only happens if you manage to acquire a monopoly and are forced to break up your company - I'm not entirely sure you have to sell parts of it publicly even then

Unless the someone happens to be the owner.

[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 42 points 1 week ago

Not for capitalism though

[–] funkajunk@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They seem to forget that "line go up" isn't the primary objective. If you make a good product and give half a shit about your customers, the line goes up as a natural consequence.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, but line go up fast enough?

[–] funkajunk@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Line go brrrr?

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

companies just can't seem to know how to grow without line go up mentality.

That's like saying "people just can't seem to harness the advantages of cancer without dying"

If you never take money and get hooked by outside sources, you can just slowly grow, with no debt, beholden to no one

If you take the money with any strings attached at all, you basically have to grow like cancer or your company will be sold for parts. It's inevitable at that point

Don't take the money kids. If you have to take a business loan in the beginning - fine,

[–] andioop@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

was the comma a typo of a period, or did you have more to say here? if you have more to say i'm eager to listen

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago

I meant to delete the comment to keep things simple, but what I was going to say is something like

fine, but debt is like gambling. There's situations where it makes sense, but it's addictive. It's mortgaging your own future, even when it maths out it's a risk - shit happens

And if you over leverage and under perform, it's over. If you can pay yourself and your employees, you're better off never taking on debt again.

Like Wegmans. It's the very best grocery store, everyone who goes there agrees. They grow slowly because they only open new locations when they have the cash to do so, and so they never have to compromise on quality in any way