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[โ€“] RmDebArc_5@feddit.org 201 points 2 months ago (11 children)

Isn't Nothing practically a Chinese brand with just the marketing department working in the UK?

[โ€“] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 114 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[โ€“] B0rax@feddit.org 85 points 2 months ago
[โ€“] Flames5123@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 months ago

Just an investor. Not a designer. Rich people throw money at things to get more money.

[โ€“] Scrollone@feddit.it 35 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Also, there's a EU flag but the UK has been so stupid to leave the EU.

[โ€“] canofcam@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

EU flag

yeah, but they are still European though

[โ€“] makingrain@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Council of Europe, homie. The UK is still a member of that, so can use that flag.

[โ€“] Scrollone@feddit.it 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, the Council of Europe flag is different and it includes a white handwritten "e" all around the stars.

[โ€“] makingrain@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] Scrollone@feddit.it 6 points 2 months ago

My bad. I mixed it up with the Council of Europe "logo", which is exactly the one that I've described.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Europe

[โ€“] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Yes. It is a Chinese company with american investors with non-technical jobs in the UK to be able to claim "UK company" for marketing.

Their electronics are designed only in China, the devices are programmed only in China, their software is developed in China their technical job postings are all in China for years, their CEO ran a previous Chinese owned brand (lying/misleading about the company back then too) and has worked in the Chinese phone industry for 15 years.

Their CMF line and wearables lines are all ODM'ed through various Chinese companies (for those not aware, OEM is where something is designed by a company and manufactured by another where ODM is where everything is designed by another company and the branded company just gives requirements and some input, I worked previously for an ODM kind of company) and are generic widely-available hardware marked up for brand name recognition.

Their marketing is in the UK, that's about it.

[โ€“] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Isnโ€™t it also called white label?

[โ€“] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 6 points 2 months ago

Yep, also. That is the more "business/financial" term I think.

[โ€“] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I had an RMA claim with nothing a few days ago and wow, did I hate it. They threw every stone they could find at me, and then managed to "forget" a part of the money they owed me.

Which is a shame, because I really dig their design. But fuck them.

[โ€“] gruvn@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The days of people preferring the US to China are over. I would buy Chinese tech over US tech any day.

[โ€“] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

There is no phone thatโ€™s 100% Chinese or American tech anyway. Like RAM and storage comes from Korea, often the camera sensor from Japan, the lens is designed in Germany and the CPU is based on ARMโ€™s architecture designs and ARM is from the UK.

[โ€“] whaleross@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Here in Sweden they started with fishing for funding and making press about being a Swedish company. It worked and they got hype. Then they moved to some UK tax haven and now they are apparently based on London.

I'm not very supportive of Nothing.

[โ€“] kofzmann@toots.nu 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@whaleross @RmDebArc_5 Nothing founder is Taiwan I think that lived some time in Sweden, it is not Swedish in any sense of the word. Brittish though but all manufacturing is in China as everything else

[โ€“] whaleross@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I'm saying that they marketed themselves as a new exciting Swedish tech disruptor while doing funding rounds here in Sweden. Then swiftly left anything Sweden behind and avoiding taxes doing it.

It does seem Swedish press and even tech press still think they are Swedish though.

[โ€“] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 months ago

I'm not too familiar how the company is managed, but I have Nothing 3. It's fine. Nothing special (unless you count the flashing lights on the back), gets the job done but so does pretty much every other android-based slab. At least it isn't full of vendor forced crap like samsung.

[โ€“] xep@discuss.online 8 points 2 months ago

It is fully unlockable still, though, and has custom roms, so it's under consideration for when my phone gives up the ghost. Not many brands left with easy bootloader unlocks.

[โ€“] kofzmann@toots.nu 6 points 2 months ago

@RmDebArc_5 @maam this is the reality of most Western businesses. Production in China and company address in the West

[โ€“] Evotech@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Iโ€™m pretty sure they all are

[โ€“] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Jolla manufactures in Turkey through its partnership with reeder

[โ€“] Nilz@sopuli.xyz 47 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

The Jolla C2 is being made in Turkey. The new Jolla J2 that's up for preorder now will be ~~made~~ assembled in Finland in the old Nokia fabs.

[โ€“] miguel@fedia.io 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Big if true. I'd definitely try to find a way to get one if they support any of the US networks. Assuming they'll be allowed through customs... who knows what it'll be like here by then.

[โ€“] RmDebArc_5@feddit.org 14 points 2 months ago

Final assembly, software installation, and quality inspection of Jolla Phones take place in Salo, Finland. In the same city where Nokia once built the world's most popular phones, a new European phone is now being born

According to Jolla

[โ€“] wewbull@feddit.uk 7 points 2 months ago

The SoC (i.e. the chip that contains the CPU, GPU and pretty much everything else that matters too) in it is made by Mediatek. Taiwanese.