THE POLICE PROBLEM
The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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RULES
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ALLIES
• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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ORGANIZATIONS
• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
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Very likely. But if all of a sudden people from all over are constantly sending you hate, constantly talking about you... like you're going to find it hard to find friends, find employment, especially if they have any social media which will just get flooded. If they're grade shool level, it'll take almost no time for everyone in the school to know who they are.
I think you're making a big mistake in thinking you can embarrass fascists into changing their behaviour.
Their leader is a child rapist, con artist, psychopathic serial liar racist who robs children's charities. This is their LEADER. This thing represents them and their aspirations. They wear logo clothing, decals on vehicles and flags in windows.
Ya know, not to inject Godwin's Law, but in the 1940's there was a specific leader a bunch of folks looked up to. Adults and children alike. They wore clothing and decals. The said leader killed a whole bunch of people. That country learned and took the lesson very seriously.
I think that is changing, albeit slowly. I have an avid Alex Jones-listening co-worker and he's now very, very, unhappy with the whole Epstein stuff coming out, the tax code changes and permanent breaks for the bilionaires and the H2B visa worker prefereces Trump has (oh that last one pissed him off mightily, called Trump a bilionaire classist, which it honestly shocked me to hear coming from his lips...)
For years before the election, my Trump warnings were all "lies" from the left and now that more people around Trump are distacing themselves as Triump's instability and corruption take hold.. it's changing..
I used to constantly hear that I had TDS for not liking Trump..
Recently, I flipped that back on co-worker and told him he had Trump Delusion Syndrome, in that he actually believed Trump was looking out for working people and cared about stopping child abuse..(He was certain Trump was gonna release the Epstein Files like he promised that he'd do once he became President.. Gonna expose all those baby-eating, child-fucker Demon-rats after all.. right? Nope. Covered his own pedo ass is what Trump did.)
Got nothing back in return, but a half-hearted grumble so that told me right there that more than a few pennies dropped.
No more Trump banners or those tattered flag 1776 stickers on his truck. It's all gone. No more MAGA hat.
It's changing.. slowly with some. I dont attack, but offer even MORE ugly truths about things that weren't even on co-worker's radar.
Ultimately, it starts with individuals and I'm having SO much fun gently poking holes in that Trumpist idolatry in the MAGA folks in my orbit.
Lets hope its not too little too late.
And how many innocent American and Immigrant lives lost for embarrassment to set in? Does it ease your conscience to have innocent blood on your hands while you standby and wait for embarrassment to set in? Just so you don't have to get them dirty with a demon's blood?
Doesn't seem like a good trade to me. Between the two, I much rather have demon's blood on my hands, than further innocent blood due to inaction.
Fucking what? Sorry, did you just imply that we should just kill kids because they might be racist? That someone who's racist just automatically implies they're out there slaughtering people?
Man I swear I didn't see your last sentence there, I thought you were talking about adults.
And yes racists are out to demean, harm, and slaughter others they look down upon. Whether that's denials of services, intimidation or an ol' fashion truck dragging. Or I guess these days dressing up like a terrorist and going door to door. Why are you pretending otherwise?