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[–] anas@lemmy.world 28 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Outsider opinion: There are two sides who haven’t voted for you, one side who says they’ll vote for you if you change, and another side who says they’ll never vote anything but red. There seems to be an obvious vote to go after.

[–] toolverine@lemmy.world 20 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

Capitulation to the right hasn't worked for 20 years. The Third Way is dead and no one respects it.

[–] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 12 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Not only do we not respect it, we hate it with the heat of a thousand suns

[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 9 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Yep, I voted for the Green Party, for this very reason, and all I get from people is criticism. Democrats who don't oppose fascism aren't worth voting for. If they want to be Blue MAGA they can go after Trump's voters and see where that gets them.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Good for you. What people from the "a vote for third party is a vote for Trump" camp don't understand is that the two-party system is exactly how fascism was able to become standard Republican Party policy in the first place.

A decent multi-party democracy would have enabled traditional non-fascist conservatives to break off into their own party whilst still holding seats in Congress, but instead we've got a whole party full of people who denounced Trump as a fascist way back in 2014 but have now kissed the ring. Likewise parties like the Greens would be able to enjoy votes from the millions of people who agree with all their policies, and be able to have members speaking and voting in Congress.

But the only way any of this can happen is if people stop being so short-sighted about every single election, and stop trying to whip each other into toeing the line of a demonstrably pisspoor party.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 hours ago

What people from the "a vote for third party is a vote for Trump" camp don't understand is...

You're completely correct and all, it it's even simpler than that:

They regularly tell me that the millions of votes Dems lost in CA in 24 vs 20 are all also responsible for Trump, despite the massive margin he still lost by here. They're willfully ignorant of how our elections work so they can be mad at large groups indiscriminately

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 14 hours ago

only if it enriches thier pockets, and it worked. so they will keep placating to the right, who are on the same page anyways with alot of DINOS.