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The morality of torturing children cause they're not from the chosen people.

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[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 39 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

I mentioned in my comment from the start and before making any edit that this cannot belong to the jewish religon. Same thing happened with ISIS who adopted a false supremacist murderous and evil idology of Islam. They enslaved Yazidi women and slaughtered kids and men whom they viewed as not from the chosen people.
How the fuck was ISIS bad but Zionism is supported by Europe and the US and Western values? ISIS never represented Islam the same way Zionism does not represt Judaism. ISIS mirrors Zionism to the theeth btw. They were colonizing lands that was promised to them by god, slaughtering and raping people for their promised Khalifite who will lead their people to rule the world. They also needed a country for them to escape "the prosecution" they experienced everywhere in the world to practice their religon and exist in peace. Does ISIS have the right to exist??

So lets not pretend these monsters dont exist regardless of what they claim their belief is; We judge them by their actions. The Episten files showed him and Donald Trump impregnating and aborting a mentally disabled kid numerous times. Also showed him mocking a girl who was asking Jesus for help because he absolutely does not believe in any god. Also showed his 1500 galons of acid tank that is connected to the swerage system beneath. There is an ongoing investigation regarding missing bodies in his NM ranch. There is hard undeniable evidence that this monsterous elite Epestien class exist and they do everything above the laws without shred of humanity.

[–] toad@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago

Isis was paid by Israel and armed by the US

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

No, this is the Jewish religion. They believe you do not have a divine soul, you are inherently lesser, you will be a slave to them when their messiah returns, and if you read about any of their heinous beliefs in the Talmud you should be killed. This is the consequence of allowing a religous ethnostate to control the most controversial region of the world.

[–] rapchee@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago

it is as much jewish as trump is christian

[–] BlasphemousTiefling@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

As an ex-muslim. I'd like to correct you that everything that ISIS did is mentioned in Quran and is actually a valid interpretation. In fact, a lot of it is mentioned directly by hadith and verses in the quran. Hence why you will never hear any religious institution calling them "kuffar" or people who have strayed and adopted a false supremacist view. They just really can't do that because everything ISIS did can, and is justified by the quran and hadith.

However, that is NOT to be taken in an islamaphobic way. The majority of the muslim population have no idea about this, as was I when I was still muslim. Simply because we don't get taught in schools about it. Islam is a cancer, it has the potential to be used to justify horrible atrocities because the quran and hadith contain so much shit like this. Just like any religion really, but it also happens to be overrun by extremists who spread their extremist views.

[–] just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

So quran says, in order to be a muslim, you have to kill other muslims?

[–] BlasphemousTiefling@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Dude, how can you get this conclusion from what I said? Or is this a strawman or what?

As I said, the definition of "muslim" differs by interpretation because like any other religion, people interpret the text differently. Shia muslims say that they are right. Sunnis think they are right, and within each there is more and more denominations that think they are right and none but them. There is so much infighting between them it makes leftist-infighting look like child's play.

So yes. One of the interpretations, adopted by ISIS, says that these muslims are considered kuffar (people who have rejected god), because they did not seek to learn about their religion and establish the rules that Allah commanded. Even if they were ignorant about their religion, it doesnt matter, they should have learned as it's their duty as muslims. Thus, it is okay to kill them (Cuz yes, the quran is okay with killing and enslaving non-muslims, in fact it explicitly encourages it.) So this is how they justify killing them.

Obviously this is the niche explanation of ISIS. Not mainstream islamic interpretations.

You said everything ISIS did is mentioned in quran and is valid interpretation of it. Yes?

Quran defines muslims as people who believe in oness of Allah and Prophet Muhammad as the final messenger of Allah.

Quran is very explicit about this terminology. The part of the quran revealed in Madinah (first islamic state), tackles this question of people who say they are muslim but do not act like it. They are called munafiqs (not kuffar), in fact this is the biggest topic of madni quran.

So when you say that actions of ISIS are from quran, that is categorically wrong.

That's my whole point. Which is very very apparent if a non-muslim were to read it without an anti-muslim agenda.

I don't even wanna go into your other false claims cuz the internet is literally filled of their refutations if anyone want to look into that those topics.

[–] toad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Isis was armed and paid by Israel. Religions are theaters of the class war, not ennemies in themselves

[–] BlasphemousTiefling@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

Religions are tools to control the masses and yes the rich use them for this purpose. Thus it should eventually be dismantled if possible, or restrained at least. Because when religious institutions have too much power and influence we can agree that nothing good happens out of it.

[–] daannii@lemmy.world -1 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Isn't there a decent amount of evidence that ISIS is in fact, the IDF. ?

False flag operation.

[–] MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca -1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] daannii@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Weird how ISIS only targets other Muslims.

Even though it's legit against the Muslim religion to kill other Muslims.

[–] BlasphemousTiefling@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 hours ago

Even though it's legit against the Muslim religion to kill other Muslims.

Not really. Islam has a lot of denominations and interpretations of the quran. ISIS justify killing of other muslims as that these muslims are "kuffar" because they have not actively implemented the teachings of Allah and are silent and complicit in not implementing sharia law.

Some denominations would say that those muslim people are ignorant and so there's no blame to be put on them. ISIS's sees that ignorance is not an execuse because in their opinion it is every muslim's duty to learn their religion, and that if they did, they'd see that they must implement sharia law.