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The US claims foreign-made routers pose national security risks.

In December, the Federal Communications Commission banned all future drones made in foreign countries from being imported into the United States, unless or until their maker gets an exemption. Now, the FCC has done the exact same for consumer networking gear, citing “an unacceptable risk to the national security of the United States and to the safety and security of U.S. persons.”

If you already have a Wi-Fi or wired router, you can keep on using it — and companies that have already gotten FCC radio authorization for a specific foreign-made product can continue to import that product.

But since the vast majority — if not all — consumer routers are manufactured outside the United States, the vast majority of future consumer routers are now banned. By adding all foreign-made consumer routers to its Covered List, the FCC is saying it will no longer authorize their radios, which de facto bans new devices from import into the country.

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[–] Substance_P@lemmy.world 132 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Here's a list of all the commercially available US made routers below

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Good hunting !

[–] StealthLizardDrop@piefed.social 103 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Its probably to force people to use ISP routers which imo are compromised from the gecko

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 14 hours ago

ISP-supplied routers are not made in the USA. So no.

[–] HexaBack@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I fucking hate my xfinity router. their excuse of a "settings" panel can ONLY be accessed from their app 🤮, and just marvel at the plethora of options you can configure:

SSID

Password

xfinitywifi Hotspot ON/OFF

"Safe" Browsing ON/OFF

this is madness compared to my previous att router, which while still a shitty ISP router, at least had enough settings to create a proper self-hosting environment. I feel this is being done to kill self-hosting.

[–] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You don't have to use their hardware. In fact, you can save the monthly equipment rental fee by purchasing and setting up your own. I've been using Xfinity with my own cable modem and router for years.

[–] HexaBack@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm aware, but this post is saying that it won't be possible for much longer

[–] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Still possible. You just may not be able to buy new hardware.

[–] HexaBack@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

if it doesn't get scalped to shit... we see what's happening with RAM right now...

[–] possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

okay, buy a new router now with your desired options and protect your neck? i get that it may not be cost effective but your options here are shit both ways.

[–] HexaBack@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

that's what I'm doing rn, sorry if it sounded like I was arguing

[–] TwitchingCheese@lemmy.world 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Except with their bandwidth fees I would be paying more money to use my own equipment than to rent theirs (which includes unlimited bandwidth). Not to mention there are very few modems they allow to use DOCSIS High Split for increased upload speeds even if they're capable of it.

Put it in bridge mode, open it up and disconnect the wifi antennas and use your own gear.

[–] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Bandwidth fees? No idea what you're talking about. I pay a flat monthly price for 1Gbit down, 300Mbit up with no data caps or throttling, and I definitely get the speeds I'm paying for. I have a relatively cheap Motorola modem. I think I paid about $120 for it 6 years ago and haven't had a spot of trouble. I never reboot it. The only time I have lost connection it turned out to be a failed signal attenuator in a junction box down the street.

[–] TwitchingCheese@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 52 minutes ago)

Be glad it's not in your area or you were grandfathered into unlimited then. 1.2 TB cap with $10 / 50GB over that. Or you can get unlimited data for an additional $30 / month. Their modem rental includes unlimited data for $25 / month.

You might also want to run a speed test. Comcast has a very small list of modems that they approve for mid split / high split for faster upload speeds https://www.xfinity.com/support/internet/customerowned That meant my own modem (which supported it but wasn't "approved") could only get ~100 Mb/s upload, but their rental hits the 300 they advertise (closer to 350 with the over-provisioning)

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 67 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was going to correct you then I saw your username and I’m fucking amused.

As you were.

[–] StealthLizardDrop@piefed.social 4 points 23 hours ago

3 word generators for the win 😀

[–] KneeTitts@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

which imo are compromised from the gecko

elvis sings: "In the geckoooo"

[–] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

El Vez sings "en el barrio"

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

But 15 minutes could save you 15% on your car insurance!

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

From the ... gecko? From the get-go. Boneappletea in the wild, or autocorrect gone wrong?

[–] StealthLizardDrop@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Requested context provided at the time stamp, though you can watch entire clip its gold

https://youtu.be/5ExXOIvY9V0?t=380

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Thank you for your kind act of mercy.

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yeah that was my question. The US can manufacture routers now???

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 day ago

It's not about that. It's about existing manufacturers getting "approval". That approval likely means it's got a Palantir backdoor pre installed.

They can still be made outside the US as long as they are approved. That's all this is about.

[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 9 points 1 day ago

We can make wafers here, and we can absolutely do final assembly using wave solder machines (worked for a couple of companies in Austin doing either) but it’s the crucial step between that we don’t do. The US doesn’t really make electrical components, not at that scale anyway. We don’t even spend the money on pick and place machines, and even if we do final board assembly here it’s sub-par at best. I’m arguing with my boss every day that I’m not a damn machine, I can’t make perfect solder joints every time.

[–] timwa@lemmy.snowgoons.ro 8 points 1 day ago

Provided they are made with rolled steel and have a big-ass two-stroke diesel attached, I am entirely sure that routers are within the abilities of the US's high-tech industrial base.

Can you power a router with Clean Coal™?

[–] tal@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

I mean, if the article is correctly-assessing the situation, and you're correct that there aren't any, I'd expect them to show up pretty quickly. Might cost more.