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The US claims foreign-made routers pose national security risks.

In December, the Federal Communications Commission banned all future drones made in foreign countries from being imported into the United States, unless or until their maker gets an exemption. Now, the FCC has done the exact same for consumer networking gear, citing “an unacceptable risk to the national security of the United States and to the safety and security of U.S. persons.”

If you already have a Wi-Fi or wired router, you can keep on using it — and companies that have already gotten FCC radio authorization for a specific foreign-made product can continue to import that product.

But since the vast majority — if not all — consumer routers are manufactured outside the United States, the vast majority of future consumer routers are now banned. By adding all foreign-made consumer routers to its Covered List, the FCC is saying it will no longer authorize their radios, which de facto bans new devices from import into the country.

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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 2 points 2 hours ago

I was hoping to hold off on upgrading my modem and router until at least one of them died. Considering the nature of the Regime, I should just bite the bullet and spend some of my savings. That money will lose value anyways.

Costco is selling an BE19000 router for about $240. That is a bit cheaper than the same thing on Amazon.

[–] garbage_world@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Dear American government, I have a better idea: Ban proprietary software on routers. You can even go a bit further and ban proprietary OSes totally. This way nobody will spy on your citizens without their knowledge.

[–] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 1 points 4 hours ago

I don't think they are listening

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Well, I tried to get y'all to stock up on drones a year ago

Unrelated: drones make a great Christmas gift for that recently laid off, benefits denied, recently diagnosed with a disease caused by known carcinogens in their everything, injured at work, under paid and exploited person you know.

Get em before they’re deemed a safety hazard and pulled from shelves.

For some reason the above comment gives an error of Error when viewed outside my comments.

https://lemmy.ca/post/34476205/13234882

Maybe I made them ban drones:

I may have suggested some things.

You may have to copy and paste that link - voyager refuses to open it.

[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 26 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

The covered list notes they use the National Security Determination definition of router which is as follows:

Routers: For the purpose of this determination, the term “Routers” is defined by National Institute of Science and Technology’s Internal Report 8425A to include consumer-grade networking devices that are primarily intended for residential use and can be installed by the customer. Routers forward data packets, most commonly Internet Protocol (IP) packets, between networked systems

So enterprise devices (which is where an attacker would focus their attention if they were looking for large payouts or political leverage) don't count, nor do APs or switches. That really just seems like an excuse to have a platform for the Feds to spy on their citizens.

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Also, since when does the FCC have jurisdiction over wired routers? Like the post text explicitly says they will not authorize radios, which wired routers don't have...

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 2 points 13 hours ago

We'll see what happens after the inevitable wave if lawsuits grinds its way through the courts.

[–] zemo@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago

Nail on the head

[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

OPNSense and a 2 NIC PC are all you need.

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 19 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

It's always projection. This means the dark empire is weaponizing commercial drones and wifi routers and everything else. They don't want anyone to do to them, what they will now do to you.

[–] Zacpod@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

That was exactly my thought. "Oh, this means thar the US has Spyware on the routers produced inside the USA, and any US drone has killswitches built in."

[–] halfsak@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Yup. You'll need to insert your ID into the US govt approved router as well

[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 1 points 10 hours ago

Just hold up to the camera on the router.

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 39 points 1 day ago

Wait, it talks about FCC radio authorization. However that doesn’t make it a router, just an access point. Quite a few routers (thinking the Pro-sumer Uniquiti UXG models) don’t even have radios and aren’t wireless so there’s no radio they can withhold certification on. This could affect AIOs but all you’d have to do is separate your router from your AP.

Definitely sounds like a quickly thrown out, half baked shakedown (bribe) measure with something they could control (radio authorization) and just targeted routers since that’s a common place they are.

[–] Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works 16 points 23 hours ago

United on Spying on our Asses.

[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Many people will soon find joy in slapping a 4-port NIC into an old PC and learning nftables, BIND9 and kea.

[–] psoul@lemmy.world 21 points 23 hours ago

It’s nftables little Bobby Tables’ brother?

[–] Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works 7 points 23 hours ago

I will find joy in learning about all of these things now.

Thank you!

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago

Let me guess, Don Jr. conveniently started a router company yesterday?

[–] Substance_P@lemmy.world 128 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Here's a list of all the commercially available US made routers below

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Good hunting !

[–] StealthLizardDrop@piefed.social 98 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Its probably to force people to use ISP routers which imo are compromised from the gecko

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 hours ago

ISP-supplied routers are not made in the USA. So no.

[–] KneeTitts@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

which imo are compromised from the gecko

elvis sings: "In the geckoooo"

[–] HexaBack@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I fucking hate my xfinity router. their excuse of a "settings" panel can ONLY be accessed from their app 🤮, and just marvel at the plethora of options you can configure:

SSID

Password

xfinitywifi Hotspot ON/OFF

"Safe" Browsing ON/OFF

this is madness compared to my previous att router, which while still a shitty ISP router, at least had enough settings to create a proper self-hosting environment. I feel this is being done to kill self-hosting.

[–] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 7 points 23 hours ago (7 children)

You don't have to use their hardware. In fact, you can save the monthly equipment rental fee by purchasing and setting up your own. I've been using Xfinity with my own cable modem and router for years.

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 63 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was going to correct you then I saw your username and I’m fucking amused.

As you were.

[–] StealthLizardDrop@piefed.social 3 points 15 hours ago

3 word generators for the win 😀

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

From the ... gecko? From the get-go. Boneappletea in the wild, or autocorrect gone wrong?

[–] StealthLizardDrop@piefed.social 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Requested context provided at the time stamp, though you can watch entire clip its gold

https://youtu.be/5ExXOIvY9V0?t=380

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

Thank you for your kind act of mercy.

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[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 64 points 1 day ago

until their maker gets an exemption

Ah, yes, how to ask for a bribe 101.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They COULD just regulate these things...

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Seriously, how hard is it to write a blanket, "No spyware allowed in electronics whatsoever" law and call it a day?

Nooooooo! The free market hates regulation.

But, loves... banning? Wait, that can't be right...

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 84 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Everyone who is even remotely technically able and even slightly concerned about privacy needs to learn how to BYO router

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (3 children)

Sounds... like a bit of a pain in the ass.

So, I imagine we're talking about a linux micro-pc with perhaps 1 or 2 additional pcix networking cards?

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[–] Imaginary_Stand4909@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

So... can I still flash custom firmware like OPNsense and Openwrt on them? Cause I literally just posted about hardware decision a few days ago 😭

Edit: It seems the article and actual FCC document will leave previous router models alone, but anything newer is cooked... Even the US brands like Cisco aren't actually manufactured here because we fucking outsource evrything. I hate this government.

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[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

At least this bans isreali routers

[–] rants_unnecessarily@piefed.social 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They will get an exemption, if they don't have it already.

[–] Ghostie@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago

Parts purchase from Israel and assembled in the US, therefore US-made.

[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 38 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It is possible (and now probably encouraged) to run router software on an old PC. You can also slot in a PCIE nic or connect it too a hardware switch and AP for more flexibility and control.

This won't stop your ISP from spying on you, but it will stop your American router manufacturer from spying on you.

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[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ah yes, more security holes incoming. Gotta love maglomania (not sure if that is the correct word?)

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

magalomania. 😀

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