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[–] adminofoz@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] mirshafie 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Then I have a really hard time seeing what the problem is.

[–] adminofoz@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The problem is too many women and minorities vote for the opposite party so they want to make laws that take away their rights without explicitly saying that is what they are doing.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You have a really hard time listening to anything but your singular republican "I don't see what's so wrong about providing ID" talking point.

The problem you're ignoring every time you paste that reddit republican shit is that republicans are trying to restrict what ID counts as a proper ID and have selected passports. Since they're a federal ID instead of a state ID, the trump-controlled federal government can restrict how they're issued. And selectively revoke them from people that republicans don't want voting.

Plus, they're expensive and time consuming to get. It's a de facto poll tax, and I'm sure you have a talking point about how poll taxes aren't so bad either.

[–] mirshafie 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'll spell it out for you. I am not glued to yankee media. So no, I'm not reiterating "Republican talking points" or "pasting" from them. I'm just reacting to what I'm reading in this thread and what I've seen from some British media which has a similar discussion.

I’m sure you have a talking point about how poll taxes aren’t so bad either.

LOL. Insufferable. Bye.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I’m just reacting to what I’m reading in this thread and what I’ve seen from some British media which has a similar discussion.

Republican talking points don't politely stop at the water's edge. British media will happily print them.

[–] mirshafie 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

American. Can't afford to. Thanks for the ableist insult.

[–] mirshafie 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I gathered as much. I'm just saying not everyone you talk to on the internet is American. It's not the default. I'm writing to you in my third language. I have no obligation to follow your media cycle.

But regardless. I know that access to health care is limited for lots of Americans, and it was not my intention to be hurtful.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I have no obligation to follow your media cycle.

It's clear that republican propaganda has made its way to you anyway. You repeat it without a second thought.

and it was not my intention to be hurtful.

You dismissed what I was saying by calling it mental illness. I can't see how that could have been intended as anything other than gaslighting and abuse.

[–] mirshafie 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The trouble you're having is that you're jumping to ridiculous and unhinged accusations. If you look at this very thread, I immediately changed my mind when a user pointed out that you already need photo ID for voting. But you just can't let it go. So "you" have won the political argument, I've conceded like 15 comments ago. That's the part where I think this goes beyond normal political outrage for a legitimate issue, and has probably crossed over into something that's affecting you and your relationships on a personal level. I do not mean this as an ad hominem although I phrased it in an unhelpful way.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

unhinged

More gaslighting.

I immediately changed my mind when a user pointed out that you already need photo ID for voting

Your response when someone pointed out that you already need an ID was:

Then I have a really hard time seeing what the problem is.

That's not changing your mind. That's telling people who are upset at the attempt to disenfranchise voters that they're upset about nothing.

[–] mirshafie 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

That’s not changing your mind.

That's you reading in what you needed to hear so that you could have an unnecessary fight with someone on the internet. The rage addiction is what's unhinged.

You could have asked for clarification, as in: "do you mean that there's no problem with demanding passports rather than other forms of photo ID, or do you mean that there's no problem with verifying citizenship with the current system?" Instead you jumped from one accusation to the next, utterly unable to engage in an actual exchange.

Oh, I know, I know, even more gaslighting, right?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

That’s you reading in what you needed to hear so that you could have an unnecessary fight with someone on the internet.

That's me reading what was there in plain text.

Someone explained to you what the problem was and you responded by saying you didn't see what the problem was.

Oh, I know, I know, even more gaslighting, right?

It seems to be your go-to.

[–] mirshafie 0 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Someone explained to you what the problem was and you responded by saying you didn’t see what the problem was.

I don't see a problem with the ID verification that you currently have in place. As in, I don't see a problem with the verification methods that they described. Should be pretty clear?

Every other commenter seems to have gathered as much, but sure, misunderstandings can still happen. But this thread is now pretty long, so I don't think a misunderstanding is the problem here.

Gaslighting is what you're doing. If there was a misunderstanding, fine - I can clarify and that's that. But you're trying to tell me what I meant and where my opinions are derived from (i.e. your media cycle). That's what gaslighting is. It has nothing to do with having different opinions or challenging someone's views.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

You literally said I needed therapy because I disagreed with you.

I'm done dealing with you. Go abuse someone else who doesn't like people being disenfranchised.

[–] mirshafie 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

You do need therapy man. I'm genuinely sorry if it is unavailable to you but you're literally looking for unnecessary fights. We're fucking agreeing over the specifics, but for some reason you're still pressing on and creating a conflict where there absolutely is none.

Good idea to quit this thread now though.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

You do need therapy man

That's not your call to make, and it's certainly not predicated on my disagreeing with you.

[–] mirshafie 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Of course not. It's predicated on the fact that you're creating a conflict over nothing. We're not disagreeing over the voter ID verification.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

You were told why it was a problem and kept denying it was. Now you're trying to backpedal.

Tell me I'm insane some more. It's what you do when you can't admit you're wrong.

[–] mirshafie 0 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] mirshafie 0 points 1 hour ago