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That's okay, you can disagree if you like. It's not like you're responsible for the creation, upkeep, and various abuses resulting from, this modern pseudo-AI stupidity. You're just a useful idiot to them.
i don't think you should start calling third parties useful idiots, i'm the one who started this.
I'm not calling them anything. That's just how the techbros view anyone who uses and defends their slopmachine scam.
surely a useful idiot is one who furthers the message and aids in its spreading?
Correct. If you "mildly disagree" that using the mass-plagiarism-powered so-called "AI" is plagiarism from the getgo, you're being an idiot and advancing the techbro oligarch agenda. I will not respect it. I will not have an overtly polite conversation about it. They are fucking destroying the environment and our living spaces with this shit. Stop using it. Stop defending it. If you disagree, I don't want to hear from you. There's nothing to discuss.
i mean i agree about all the stuff about plagiarism, concentration of power, usage of limited electricity and water and land, mental effects etc. i've expressed as much before. the thing i think is interesting to discuss is that, given that there's already a generation of old pre-trained models, and that there's no fossil fuel generation in my country, and that i'm doing this rather than playing a game, which uses the same amount of power, and that i'm not sharing results, just making personal scrapbook stuff... is that more immoral than just pirating movies or music?
that's not supposed to be a trick question, i genuinely don't know. i've always been of the opinion that media empires shouldn't make money from me but artists absolutely should, and that's why i generally pay indie artists but not big labels. here, i use three- or four-year-old model files which i've not paid for, on my own hardware that's completely offline so no data is provided to the big companies. i always recommend against using online commercial models and i refuse to do it myself because of the things you mentioned, but... is what i do the same?