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[–] terranoid@lemmy.cafe 81 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

They should absolutely ban disposable but as long as they're smart about it and don't try and make it a general vape ban. Anything with a microcontroller and OLED display should need regulation to be "disposable". So fucking wasteful.

Vapes can and have always been something you can pop a battery and cartridge and custom juice in. There's zero reason to make it disposable. Make the coil/cotton/juice cartridge disposable... Like a juul was last I checked? That's reasonable.

And then next regulate how much nicotine can be in per ml. 60mg/ml is fucking insane. That is heart issue level of nicotine. I got buzzed off 12 mg/ml, used 3 or 6mg/ml regularly, and quit at 1.5mg/ml. There's no fucking reason other than harm and addiction to provide 60mg/ml.

[–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

OLED maybe but small micros are now so cheap and so small that they're negligible.

Battery is probably still the biggest environmental impact.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

One of those 3 cent one time programmable microcontrollers would be sufficient. Something with enough power to run a web server is just wasteful.

[–] bacon_pdp@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You do realize that a 1 cent microcontroller has enough RAM, Flash and processing power to be a web server, correct?

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And the term web server doesn't mean it has to run the whole of AWS. It just means it can deliver some content over http.

[–] Dultas@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, I doubt it's running more than a couple concurrent connections. Idle web servers take very little resources.

[–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago

Getting ever closer to smart dust.

[–] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Germany only allows 20mg/ml, I didn't know there were countries that allowed 60??? 😭

[–] Anivia@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Du kriegst auch in Deutschland sehr leicht Vapes mit mehr als 20mg/ml, sind nur eben illegal. Der Schwarzmarkt für Vapes ist groß

[–] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 days ago

Ja natürlich, die erste vape die ich geraucht hab war auch illegal und mit 50mg/ml, aber mich hat einfach überrascht, dass es scheinbar Länder gibt in denen so ein hoher Wert sogar legal ist

[–] michael_palmer@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

don't try and make it a general vape ban. In some EU contries 10ml liquid costs more than pack of cigarettes, so they defacto banned vaping. how much nicotine can be in per ml. 60mg/ml 20 mg/ml is EU wide limit since 2025