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For a while now the transition away from Manifest V2 (MV2) to MV3 has been on-going and it looks like it is entering its final phase of deprecation, at least, in the case of Google Chrome. A recent discussion thread in the w3c WebExtensions Community Group GitHub repo has highlighted how the latest and upcoming versions of the most popular browser are expected to be its final releases with support for MV2 extensions.

What this essentially means is that the tricks and bypasses that were used to keep MV2 extensions like uBlock Origin and others alive will not work any more on Chrome, or at least not for very long. For example the Windows Registry mod that could extend MV2 availability will cease to function after Chromium version 151.

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[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 153 points 11 hours ago (5 children)

Oh look all the "chrome but in a different outfit" browsers are doing the same terrible shit? What a shocker, no one could have predicted that the many many things all on the same base where actuality just fake competition.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 14 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

God it still pisses me off what they did to my boy Opera. All of us left when they diverted after v12. We all saw this coming.

Then Vivaldi came which I have tried in quite a while but it sucked. Firefox it is.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 hours ago

I like Vivaldi except for two things: it uses the same engine as Chrome so facilitates Google's stranglehold on web standards, and it is closed-source. For functionality and design it's one of the best, but those are important downsides.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 2 hours ago

Chrome is death to a browser, there is little reason to exist if google gets to make the big calls.

[–] reka@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

What about vivaldi sucked for you?

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 72 points 11 hours ago (5 children)

Firefox has webserial support now. I no longer need anything chromium. Let them rot.

[–] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Where oh where is my PWA...?

[–] JohnHammerSky@lemmy.today 14 points 10 hours ago (2 children)
[–] JustEnoughDucks@slrpnk.net 33 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Communicating with external devices via USB or the old D-Sub connectors.

Printers, microcontrollers, instruments, etc... Directly instead of through the OS.

Notably, ESPHome Programmer uses it for flashing ESP32s wired. Other companies like Solo Motor Controllers use it for delivering a user GUI to customers that is always updated but that can switch between versions instantly for production without having to having to deal with window's broken method of having to manually search and download .exes for every program.

[–] nforminvasion@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

I had to use Brave earlier this year to flash firmware onto a Meshtastic device. It's good to hear that Firefox has that option now.

[–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 6 points 9 hours ago

never heard of it till now. neat!

[–] baner@lemmy.zip 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Even grapheneOS use it for adb into your phone to flash the images.

[–] torlakur@szmer.info 9 points 8 hours ago

webserial

they use WebUSB in GrapheneOS

[–] Muffi@programming.dev -4 points 3 hours ago

How about bluetooth support? Has that been fixed yet?

[–] JustEnoughDucks@slrpnk.net 8 points 10 hours ago

Really? Holy shit I can switch to zen fully at work and at home and uninstall chromium. Webserial was literally the only thing I needed

[–] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 5 points 9 hours ago

It does? Guess I can finally yeet Chromium from my machine then.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 36 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

They are all chrome with google scratched out and their name written in sharpie in its place.

Of course they are all doing it, cause they are all the same thing.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

They don't even try to pretend to fight it.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 12 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

because theres no fighting google.

Microsoft tried, and google won, which is why Edge became a chrome reskin instead of what it was before.

[–] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, but the worse they are the longer they live apparently.

[–] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Luckily, that's something you can change!

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

To avoid a visit by the FBI, I will say no its not.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Ah an american, in their natural habitat of giving up before even trying. Nothing can ever change, no point, etc. etc.

[–] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

That's just not true. You can always murder a bunch of innocent people or make it more racist. Try understanding a culture before you talk shit next time.

[–] BNE@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 hours ago

You sound like onna those communists Mr Reagan told me is, like, ten times more scary than people different colours to me.

Don't type! I'm armed!

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The winning move is not to do business with them, don't compete just exist and pretend they don't exist. Microslop played the game and lost, but it is a stupid silly game.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

kinda hard to do when google holds the internet by the balls. and can twist at any moment to get what they want.

Microsoft and Mozilla employees have both accused them of doing this in the past, to sabotage non-chrome browsers on google services, to make chrome look better and drive users to chrome.

[–] Babalugats@feddit.uk 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

They only 'hold the internet by the balls' if you are using and reliant on Google products.

There are hundreds (if not more) tutorials and lists online to guide you through degoogling

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm sure we can get thousands of websites and every major corporation to degoogle cause you said they should.

[–] Babalugats@feddit.uk 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Where did I say they should? (I do think it, but didn't say it).

The only person here that spoke supposed 'facts' was you, saying that Google holds the internet by the balls. Which is true only in your corner of the world. Google definitely has a majority control, but we already have a big (and growing) movement with European Digital Sovereignity, De-Googling and loads of others.

Up to you if you want to let Google hold the internet that you use 'by the balls'.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 10 hours ago

News to me, Does google hold this site by the balls? They have a lot of power yes, but they are not some unsinkable boat.

[–] MadPsyentist@lemmy.nz 1 points 10 hours ago

Microsoft "tried" about as well as a quadraplegic "tries" free climbing

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

All the FF forks are the same. Soft forks.

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Pale Moon is not a soft fork.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] zewm@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

Can hold spaghetti but not a meatball 😔

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 3 points 7 hours ago

Yeah its a real surprise. :)

[–] andxz@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

It's a damn shame, I've always liked Vivaldi otherwise. I've been dual running Vivaldi and Firefox for years now, Vivaldi for casual browsing and Firefox for more serious stuff + YouTube.

Oh well, it's time to do a full switch, I guess.

Kinda funny, I've been doing the exact same thing with Win/Linux for approximately the same length of time. Needed Win because of dome software that just doesn't work linux, and sadly, I still do.

Google and Microsoft can go fuck each other with a frozen cactus for all I care.

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

The folks at Vivaldi have been doing some work on their internal ad blocker, I think with the intention to bring most of the functionality of uBo internally so that it doesn't have to be an extension. Not sure how far along they are, but maybe they're intentionally keeping it quiet.

[–] reka@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Vivaldi have earned and deserve a lot of trust here I believe. All my chromium eggs sit in their basket.

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Same here. I'm an Opera refugee so to say (and I had high hopes for Opera actually). I've been using Vivaldi since its first public alpha/preview/whatever they were calling it.

[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Yup, Vivaldi user for 8 years and it hasn't let me down yet, but this post is troubling news.

[–] andxz@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Aye, I'm just not sure how it's going to play out. One can hope, though. It's definitely one of the best options Chrome-wise either way.

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm wondering what the decision making was when they were starting (which is now 10 years ago already, time flies, yo).

From today's perspective, a Firefox fork sounds way more logical. Back then maybe things with Blink/Chromium weren't looking so grim, maybe they were relying on the experience of that part of the team that moved over from Opera...

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

10 years ago Google was trusted and liked. The cracks were starting to show, but we're talking about the Google that was still open sourcing a lot of their products and loudly opposing government censorship of the internet.