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[–] binux@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 hours ago

So by you're logic, we'll never get all the way there. So we're safe.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Technically, this could move in the opposite direction.

It just never does, for some reason.

[–] BlindPenguin@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Extremists get their way, because they infiltrate a party of their choice and slowly move it towards their goals. They don't care if the party they root for is 100% exactly what they want, they just manipulate it and its members long enough until it does. The same could be done by the opposing side, yet somehow they decided to stay at home to "teach the dems a lesson", while waiting for the shining hero to save them all...

People might hate me for this, but i think it's not just the maga cult that is affected by the broken educational system and centuries of exceptionalist propaganda. Political parties don't change by doing nothing.

The same could be done by the opposing side

It absolutely is being done by the other side. Assuming you're describing the sides of Mossad, the CIA, the FSB, and the Guoanbu.

That said, I think you're seriously underselling the impact of strikes, boycotts, and walk outs. A party exists through it's people, and you can absolutely affect an organization when you form a large enough block that's willing to simply walk away from a corrupt and failing organization. That's a very effective way of bringing management to heel.

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz -3 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Maybe it never happens because the people who say they would vote for the "true" left don't vote?

[–] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago

You did kind of tell us not to and its pointless.

We looked at your system and kind of agreed. What are you so fucking upset about?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Not until Mamdani is on the ballot. Then they will in a landslide

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

Any excuse to avoid facing how voting for your shitty wing of the party got us here like you wanted.

[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago

How could it in a dichotomy of progressivism vs conservatism? The suppressed side will always be the progressive side because progress will always threaten the elite that are propped up by the current system and the elites will almost always have unequal and overwhelming power relative to everyone else. The system is deeply flawed for you and I, but not for musk, gates, and Zuckerberg and as a result they will fight hard to keep things the same with their disproportionate amount of resources

Especially so when the flawed system is designed to create oligarchs, so even if all 900 or so billionaires died tonight they’d rapidly be replaced (and likely lead to even more wealth concentration once the dust settles)

It's almost like political hierarchies run by the Epstein class and centrists prefer conservatism over progress.