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[–] jontree255@lemmy.world 160 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Who could have foreseen the consequences of associating all Judaism with Isreal?! Maybe our rhetoric is costing innocent lives?

Nah let’s use this as a justification to escalate.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 40 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The rhetoric costing lives is part of the intent. As lives are lost and Jewish diaspora feels less and less safe, the incentive to resettle in Israel grows.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

And literally making their synagogue named Israel...

crashed his car into Temple Israel outside Detroit on Thursday afternoon,

[–] mrlemmyhimself@lemmy.world 26 points 5 days ago (3 children)

A lot of "Temple Israel"s are older than the state of Israel

[–] ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 5 days ago

I know people, here in Lebanon, with the last name Israel, who are older than the terrorist state.

Maybe more people here would be accepting of Jewish people if the only Jewish people they ever met hadn’t been soldiers at checkpoints in the 1980s pointing guns at their faces.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 5 days ago

That maybe but they're fully for Israel to the point of doing hasbara for them, and proudly using pragerU videos to do it.

See https://www.temple-israel.org/israel

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 days ago

Right right. And sometimes we change names of things because the state of the world is different than it was. Or we don't.

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Stop being so antisemitic!!!

America creates terrorists and profits from it.

[–] MyEdgyAlt@sh.itjust.works 73 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Dayum, their website is pro-Israel as F:

https://www.temple-israel.org/israel

https://web.archive.org/web/20260212002400/www.temple-israel.org/israel

Did he do his research to pick the most-closely-affiliated facility with the people who murdered his family he could get to?

[–] E_coli42@lemmy.world 36 points 6 days ago (1 children)

No way they put PragerU propaganda videos convincing that Israel is not an apartheid state.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 10 points 5 days ago

prageru is likely funded by AIPAC/or thier backers.

[–] ChetManly@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

Bro needs a vest that fits

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (6 children)

I often feel conflicted about things like this. On the one hand, I want some consequences for the actions of the country that dropped the bomb. But this church didn't do that. The religion didn't do it either. But it was called the temple of Isreal. So it kind of set itself up to be a representation of the country. So there is a window. That said... the attack was on the school, so kids. Thats just no okay no matter what. If anything was on the table it would be the administration maybe. But I have a dislike for administraion in general, so maybe I'm biased there.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 20 points 6 days ago

His family was wiped out, and they weren't legitimate military targets, so why should he be concerned about that?

That's the problem when moronic politicians decide to prove to the world that they don't really have a tiny dick, and start indiscriminately bombing innocent people. Eventually someone is going to shoot back, and they aren't going to be any more discerning about their targets than the tiny dick politicians were.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 18 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Attacking synagogues in the US does nothing whatsoever to the government of Israel, so no reason to feel conflicted. It's just plain bad.

[–] ptu@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Government of Israel is not going to the synagogue in the US, but AIPAC is. I’m not endorsing attacking them though.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 5 days ago

and thier supporters that arnt directly tied to AIPAC.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

A lot of American Jews are rooting for Israel and America to bomb any Muslims, for any reason, and Muslims aren't stupid, they know that. It's hard to get the Military's attention, but if you can get the attention of their supporters, maybe they'll start screaming to their politicians, who will reign in the military.

Or maybe it's just straight up revenge. As long as you keep killing my innocent family, I'll keep killing yours. It's hard to argue with that logic.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (3 children)

It's easy to argue with it -- "an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind," and all that -- but it's hard not to sympathize with it.

[–] MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Exactly. The mans actions are understandable and reprehensible at the same time.

[–] MartianRecon@lemmus.org 2 points 5 days ago (5 children)

You don't have to celebrate his actions, but you can understand them.

If someone wantonly murdered your entire family, chances are the next actions you would take would not be rational.

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[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 1 points 5 days ago

It is very easy to NOT sympathize with someone's plan to blow up children, if you're not a psychopath.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The new guy who just took over as Iran's Supreme Leader, got the job because his father was killed in the first rocket strikes. How do you think he's going to feel about having any kind of good faith negotiations with IsrAmerica?

Now consider that he also lost his mother, his wife, and his daughter. His entire family. And he's not alone. He knows LOTS of people in his close personal, business, and political life who suffered similar losses - those that lived through it, that is.

Trump got rid of the last guy, and got THIS guy instead, and made America his sworn enemy. And he's only 56 years old, with lots of life ahead of him. Who can possibly blame him if he dedicates the rest of his life to getting revenge on his, his friends,' and his nation's behalf?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I'm not sure my point got across. I wasn't trying to blame anybody; I was just trying to make a distinction between a logical argument and an emotional one.

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[–] Jollyllama@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

Attacking an American synagogue will only drum up more support for the ongoing genocide and war.

Also, the word "Israel" predates the "State of Israel". It is also a common first and last name in the Jewish world. "Beth Israel" means "House of Israel" or "Israel House", its not really grammatically sound so it can go either way.

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Idk man, I really hate what US Christians are doing right now, but I don't think shooting up a random church is going to fix anything. If this shithead wanted to take out his sorrow on someone, he should have headed to DC to attack someone actually culpable.

[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No one gave a shit that his family were innocent bystanders. Why should he care that these victims were. The people making the decisions are wrapped in layers of security. These people are why they have the power to make those decisions.

I'm not defending violence, but it does make more sense than you give it credit for. In the end violence will only breed more violence, but when your reason to care is gone,, when justice is never coming for the guilty, people will take their vengeance out wherever they can reach.

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I'm not defending violence

But you literally are, though.

[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No, I'm saying it's rational. I'm not suggesting it's right. It doesn't solve anything, killing more people won't bring his family back and ultimately will only justify more violence. It's an embrace of nihilism by someone who has nothing left to care about but petty vengeance.

What I'm saying is, if you start from the assumption nothing matters, then it is perfectly reasonable. I reject the premise, but the conclusion is logical for someone who doesn't. Strip a person of everything that matters to them, and they have no reason not to seek the cold comfort of vengeance against whomever they can access.

[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 2 points 5 days ago (4 children)

It's quite literally NOT RATIONAL to attack other Innocents for revenge of the death of Innocents.

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[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

When a foreign nation drops bombs that kill your family, the proper response is to write a letter to the editor, or perhaps boycott products from the nation that killed everyone you love. I simply can't understand why this guy didn't write that letter and announce his boycott. So illogical.

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago

That's quite the strawman you've constructed.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The conflict comes because we're comparing two different forms of evil. All we can really do is observe and take notes for the history books

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[–] TheGoldenV@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

Just look at the slob front center. Damn

[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 days ago
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