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[–] axh@lemmy.world 207 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Why would they join the war that is already won?

[–] NeptuneOrbit@lemmy.world 56 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Victory has many fathers. Defeat is a gosh gallop of roping in allies, obscuring facts and blaming Joe Biden.

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[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 23 points 5 days ago

To win the war he already won. How is that confusing?

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

Ignore that fascist bastards whining. He dug his own ass into it let him dig himself out

[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 120 points 5 days ago (3 children)

My god he is such a fucking idiot. He just insulted them and told them their help wasnt needed. Just a stupid, pathetic, hatefull asshole.

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[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 134 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 42 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 37 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

"We don't need your ships"

24 hours later...

"Please send your ships"

"BTW, we already won the war, but please help"

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 29 points 4 days ago

"I want Greenland! Give me Greenland, or I'll go to war with Europe! Give me what I want OR ELSE! "

3 months later:

"You better help me save face from my virtuosically incompetent war strategy OR ELSE!"

[–] Jaybird@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He should be pleading. But he is demanding. That's the weird part. He does not have the cards for demanding.

You break it, you own it. He attacked, without reason. Hell! According to them its not even a war. Get congress to declare war first, then we talk.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Surprisingly, Starmer has so far shown signs of having a spine. He must be facing a backbench revolt.

Starmer is another leader I fucking hate. Are there any good leaders left?

[–] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 96 points 5 days ago
[–] MonsterMonster@lemmy.world 72 points 5 days ago

I thought he didn't need our ships for a war already won.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 28 points 4 days ago

I'm starting to think he was never very good at the businesses and the strategies all along!

[–] metermatic26@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago

This is the same country that was seriously planning to invade and annex Greenland just three months ago. They might have postponed their plans in favor of bombing Iran, but Greenland is still on the table.

So Europe may suffer the economic consequences of this mess, but the White House getting humiliated and the US military getting degraded and bogged down in Iran are both a boon for Europe.

My only fear that some European leaders (looking at you Starmer) might actually be stupid enough to follow them in this folly out of some misplaced sense of appeasement.

[–] apftwb@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

Sane-washing title

the US president urged Britain and other nations – including France, China and Japan – to send warships to the area to protect oil tankers from Iranian attacks.

Not a good sign if we are asking China to change our diaper.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

Just one week ago he "truthed":

The United Kingdom, our once Great Ally, maybe the Greatest of them all, is finally giving serious thought to sending two aircraft carriers to the Middle East. That’s OK, Prime Minister Starmer, we don’t need them any longer — But we will remember. We don’t need people that join Wars after we’ve already won!

What? Wasn't already won one week ago, and no help was needed? Now it needs to beg for help?

[–] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world 33 points 4 days ago

The infinite might of the United States is unable to hold and defend a 24-mile wide body of water.

Think about that for a second.

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 47 points 5 days ago

“That’s OK, Prime Minister Starmer, we don’t need them any longer — But we will remember. We don’t need people that join Wars after we’ve already won!”

Huh.

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 56 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The only official response to him from the UK should be the direct quote about not needing the UK. No additional words. Don't take any words out. Just the exact quote.

[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 26 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Starmer will say no, only in defence, then give Trump everything he wants.

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[–] arcine@jlai.lu 40 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Does he mean the strait that is only insecure because HE made it insecure ? Good job by the way !

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[–] theblurstoftimes@leminal.space 35 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Dear UK, do not help pedophile rapist out!

  • America
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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

"Please spend billions of dollars to pull my ass out of the fire!"

France already told him to go fuck himself.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

UK, Germany, France and Spain, so far, and I believe also even his fellow fascists running Italy.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I’m going to tell you like I told George Bush. Go fuck yourself.

-France

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[–] metalGoat1@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Where the fuck is Israel in this war? Where are their soldiers?

[–] Soulg@ani.social 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] northface@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 days ago

At a "safe" distance, ensuring others fight their pointless war for them so they can conquer and exploit the region afterwards.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 25 points 5 days ago

Fuck off loser.

[–] ranzispa@mander.xyz 15 points 4 days ago (4 children)

According to the article, this is what he said:

Hopefully China, France, Japan, South Korea, the UK, and others, that are affected by this artificial constraint will send ships to the area so that the Hormuz Strait will no longer be a threat by a nation that has been totally decapitated.

How does that turn into this?

Donald Trump pleads for UK to send warships to secure Strait of Hormuz

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[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I submit the following: an oil shock and the resultant recession/depression is worth enduring so that the world may be rid of Trump. Let the idiot wear his blunder, and may the economic disaster he unleashed be forever known as the Trump Slump. The alternative might be WW3.

One thing, though: we must help Ukraine defeat Putin. Russia is getting a huge boost right now from Trumps's blunder. If the UK and others send ships anywhere, it should be to blockade Russia.

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[–] lithiumground@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

USA and Zionists just bring chaos and instability to the region .

Gulf countries and Iran could find a middle ground and agree to peace , but zionists wants greater Israel ,USa wants resources

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

What in Frankensteins vagflaps is going on with his face? It looks like it was sewn together from discarded bits of uncooked chicken skin

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This timeline is unrealistic and poorly thought out.

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[–] certified_expert@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago (2 children)

“We have already destroyed 100 per cent of Iran’s military capability, but it’s easy for them to send a drone or two, drop a mine, or deliver a close-range missile somewhere along, or in, this waterway, no matter how badly defeated they are.”

In what appeared to be an appeal to the UK and other nations, he added: “Hopefully China, France, Japan, South Korea, the UK, and others, that are affected by this artificial constraint will send ships to the area so that the Hormuz Strait will no longer be a threat by a nation that has been totally decapitated.”

Mr Trump struck a markedly different tone from when, earlier this month, he accused Sir Keir of joining the conflict after the US had already claimed victory, suggesting the US no longer needed UK assistance.

“The United Kingdom, our once Great Ally, maybe the Greatest of them all, is finally giving serious thought to sending two aircraft carriers to the Middle East,” Mr Trump wrote earlier in March. “That’s OK, Prime Minister Starmer, we don’t need them any longer – But we will remember. We don’t need people that join Wars after we’ve already won!”

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[–] WanderingThoughts 26 points 5 days ago

Would love for a country to just ask a billion dollar per day, paid in advance, for any help. Art of the deal and all that.

[–] rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 days ago

The problem with the American military doctrine, is that they don't have one; everytime they need to fight a war, they find somebody else to be the troops while they stick to a "support" role.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 27 points 5 days ago (11 children)

I don't have a lot of faith that a worm like Kier Starmer won't fold after Trump yells at him a bit.

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[–] Phoenix3875@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

In what appeared to be an appeal to the UK and other nations, he added: “Hopefully China, France, Japan, South Korea, the UK, and others, that are affected by this artificial constraint will send ships to the area so that the Hormuz Strait will no longer be a threat by a nation that has been totally decapitated.”

China, France, Japan, South Korea, the UK…wut?

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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Alternatively, the UK can kick out the US and Israeli ambassadors and its oil will be allowed to pass the Strait.

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago
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