Dunning-Kruger effect runs rampant in America.
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Yeah I'm american and a huge majority of the people I interact with are idiots just mindlessly consuming shit as the world burns down around them.
I used to work in customer service some 10+ years ago. After having to interact with the general public for an extended period of time, I can confirm, the average American is dumb as a bag of rocks.
The idiots make the most noise.
Yes. Youve still got people on Lemmy who argue for a 3rd party vote in the previous and next election. Its mind numbing the fairy land these people live in. All around the world people are watching as Americans struggle with simplest choices.
But as fun as it is to blame Americans entirely their media is completely cooked. Their FCC refuses to enforce laws against bad actors. Internal bad actors and external bad actors constantly spread misinfo and manipulate public perception. Even though its been said over and over I still dont think people actually understand the influence this is having on the average citizen. You can convince the media voter of anything if you can control their perception of the world.
You voted for genocide and got genocide IndieGoblin, so I suppose you're the smart one, yeah. Good job.
You will blame the third party vote, meanwhile, a third of those eligible to, don't even vote, and you can't even get tens of millions of your own party members to vote.
It seems third party voters are the absolute least of your worries, but do go on with your mind numbing. Yeah, they're the first idiots that come to mind, eh? BRILLIANT
Idk man Ross Perot almost won back in the 90s if the cancer thing hadn't happened he might have actually done it and then I truly believe once it happened it would have continued to happen.
But instead yeah we should keep the system we have now democrats and republicans have been so good to us wouldn't you agree?
You're like the guy that tells people not to vote for the union.
Bonus: here's an article talking about how the democrats are helping trump get his spying powers kicked off even better in the USA.
Make sure to keep telling people to only vote for these two parties though instead of trying to gain enough support for an actual change.
https://theintercept.com/2026/03/23/trump-domestic-spying-fisa-702-democrats/
And another one where the dems helped good ol child rapist trump as well
Ross Perot
Ah yes, the billionaire. Electing a billionaire businessman is just what the US needs, right?
I never said that.
I said, that he almost won and if he had I truly believe that others would have too (meaning third party runners)
I never even said I supported him or any variation of that, simply that a third party almost did win and that if it happened once it could again but of course never will with the type of discourse that guy is using. "Throwing away votes" and shit what a load of nonsense.
People like that are why third party votes dont win and seem to be wasted in that context.
But The Pedophile said the Old Man once sniffed his daughter's hair, so I'm voting for The Pedophile.
Why vote for the pedophiles?
Vote Green, or Socialist, or Libertarian, or WHATEVER comes closest to what you think is right.
They say it's only A or B because those are the options they WANT you to have. But it's not their call, and it's not even their business. They don't realize that third party votes influence the major parties (if they didn't, it wouldn't enrage them so much, now would it?).
Ds and Rs, worry about your own parties, get your own voters out. A lot of people hate both of you, and you're going to have to let them go. You can't force them to join your binary clown show.
The majority of voters are INDEPENDENTS (40%). Ds and Rs are now the minority (30% each). That's what you get for ignoring voters for DECADES.
I think the problem is the voting system itself. first past the post highly enocurages a two party system. third parties will only rise when one of the two big parties does a major fuck up which, considering the pedophile president, is hard to do at this point.
I vote third party specifically to make people like you mad. I took time out of my day to vote green.
You want my vote, give me a single issue that the dems will be good on
They're good at holding office for decades until they are freaking 89 like Maxine Waters.
Coincidentally, she and her entire extended family have somehow become filthy rich! So lucky!
Meh. I feel you. I don't regret voting Nader in 2000, but realistically, your chances of moving toward a more progressive society are far better if the cult doesn't have a champion in office.
reminder that this situation has been engineered by decades of a billionaire powered machine defunding education and capturing a significant portion of the country in a propaganda machine
like, yea, americans are dumb and shitty, but we've largely been made to be this way. it's not inherent and it's not unfixable (altho it's not like it's solvable overnight, ofc, it took a long time to get here and it'll take a long time to get out)
About 35% are undoubtedly and rigidly so. The truly unfortunate part is that they’re motivated idiots. They are actively and aggressively ignorant and very much want to impose their idiocy on the rest of the country.
This looks exactly like the cover of one of those "everyone is stupid but me" self help self fellatio instruction books. When do they tell you to pull a rib out?
I run into Euros all the time who think colonialism is over and everyone is forgiven because global south countries can make deals with Euro companies to destroy their land at the expense of their people instead of being invaded literally to destroy their land at the expense of their people (most of the time, of course). People in imperial metropoles are just more likely to require delusion to make sense of a world where they benefit from cruelty without being a bad person.
Many of the tactics we have to fight settler-colonial imperialism has come from colonized and marginalized people in the United States; liberals conveniently forget they exist because this fact challenges the inevitability of their way of life.
I wish I could find a gif of that woman at the gas station saying "Apparently, I'm an idiot!" in regards to voting 3 times for Trump.
yes
Yes! Oddly, the rest of the world, all of those smarties all over the globe, enable them, and even give them gobs of money.
I don't get it
My theory is brain atrophy. It's not that those people are stupid and unable to learn, it's that they don't have to use their brains for any sort of analytical thinking and kind of forget how to do it. You can still teach them their trade and they will be good at their job but they are never challenged intellectually. School is easy and you can finish education just by playing sports or whatever, news are predigested and dumbed down, entertainment is not intellectually stimulating in any way. Most people go through their lives without ever having to contemplate anything deeper than what hamburger to have for lunch. Then when Trump shows up they simply don't have the brain capacity needed to understand he's lying to them. "He says the war is good for us". That's it. There's no "but" because their brains can't do that anymore. The processing just stops right there.
Of course there are still curious people there that study, wonder about things and try to understand the world. It's just that they are the minority now. In other countries the proportions are reversed for now but things don't look that good there either.
This is the analogy I use.
Remember those high school seniors who were bullies to everyone and treated the teachers like garbage? The ones who know they were destined to work shitty jobs or join the military because they'd never go to college or get a good trade.
That's your Trump voter. They know their way of life has peaked. They are too old, too dumb, or too stubborn to adapt to a changing world. They want coal plants and big gas guzzling cars because that's what they want
You are missing a vital point. Those folks are mindless herd animals looking for a leader. They can't leave the herd for fear of being lost and they are too dumb or lazy to figure things out themselves.
Oh, I agree. When Trump crashes and burns they'll come up with a reason to blame the trans* folks for distracting them and vote for the next Great Leader.
*trans, or immigrants, or Greens, or anyone except themselves
If you add that these bullies were given high-paying blue collar jobs, cheap houses, and wives to abuse freely, it's no longer an analogy. The Trumpist boomers literally had this happen. When this system broke they reacted to it like the selfish, hateful idiots they are.
Don't kid yourself.
Trump has support across all age groups.
Go back to 'Gamergate" and you'll see how the Right created the incel movement.
Never suggested he didn't. The average age of Trump voters skews over 50 though.
One third of Americans are the worst of the worst. Racist, homophobic, bigoted, easily manipulated ,and stupid af.
Another third is apathetic, which imo also means stupid.
So yes.
Spoiler: Yes.
Is it even a spoiler at this point? I mean, I live here and it’s fucking terrifying how stupid we are
Anyone that lived through the pandemic knows that yes, most people are idiots
Anyone that lived ~through the pandemic~ knows that yes, most people are idiots.
I feel like this is a pretty universal belief.
Even among the idiots, probably
Certainly. I think it's kind of a truism that a high opinion of one's own intelligence is comorbid with idiocy.

What are those two symbols that look like A in a circle?
Bottom seems to be anarchism (more of a political philosophy and not a religion) While top seems to be atheism (which is more of lack of a religion)
Its Atheism and Trekism, no Anarchy here sadly. Usually Anarchy has the A breaking the circle
Is this not Arch btw?
Anarchism is the only thing I can think of, but I'd have thought it's more of a political movement than a religion
I mean, is it not apparent at this point?
If you watch someone do the thing where they step on a rake and hit themselves in the face more than once, you have to accept the reality that they're probably stupid.
Americans have stepped on the rake a lot more than once.
It's like they built roads out of rakes and will loudly exclaim that they have the best roads in the world.
I don't think that was ever in doubt. Some of them are silly, mostly harmless idiots and others are violent, dangerous, evil idiots, though, it's important to remember that.