Plus, higher ethanol content in fuel reduces its energy density, so while this will certainly reduce prices, it will make people buy gas more often. Meaning.. Not a great fix.
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I accidentally put E85 in my van when I was driving cross country after buying. My efficiency went to shit and was getting about 150 miles on a tank (20 gallon) compared to the 300 miles I was getting the rest of the trip,
There’s also the deal where a significant amount of the world’s nitrogen fertilizer passes through the Strait of Hormuz, so even if corn ethanol is cheaper now, it may not be for long.
This country will do anything except harvest the power from that big yellow ball in the sky.
This country is a fuckin death cult
The what? I'm not familiar with any yellow ball in the sky. You mean when corn gets really tall? That shit can make so much ethanol.
Ethanol, made from corn, fertilized with…?
Short term thinking got the USA into the mess. More short term thinking is the answer, right?
Wait, you think there was any thinking involved in getting the US into this mess? Nothing going on in Trump's head counts as thinking. If he got any dumber he'd qualify as a vegetable.
That's an insult to vegetables. At least veggies are good for you.
The Trump administration is going to wreck my engine, isn't it.
Well yeah, new car sales are way down so this is really a two birds, one stone situation for them
This thread is predictable, fueled by oil and gas bot misinformation.
Brazil sells E100 fuel, and it's $3.30 a gallon, cars run cooler, cleaner and last longer due to no carbon build up and carbon deposits in oil.
No cartel sets the price, and the fuel comes from biomass which captured the carbon during growth.
Go to any drag strip, ethanol dragsters are popular.
Also, these run on alcohol fuel and have for 60 years...

Talk about misinformation. While it is true that race cars use exotic fuel such as this, they also get rebuilt and refreshed regularly and they also are designed around using fuel like this. Its like saying my Camry can run nitro methane fuel just because the guys at the drag strip do it. Furthermore, it takes a shit ton of land and carbon to grow food crops just to turn it into fuel, while millions of people go hungry.
This isn't a solution for passenger vehicles.
Ethanol can still cause carbon build up as it is made of carbon and at high temps can form carbon non polar byproducts
Isn't that the reason they still sell ethanol free gas, because it gunks up small engines?
Sorta, but that's not usually from burning the fuel. Ethanol attacks rubber in older engines, so that can be a source of gunk.
But usually it's because ethanol absorbs water and small engines often sit longer with fuel in them. Also, when gas with ethanol evaporates, it leaves a varnish that can clog stuff up.
Also, it has more oxygen available and can burn hotter, which is rough for some small engines, especially air-cooled ones.
Yes its absolute garbage for older vehicles too. When it dries out it leaves a chunky white powder that will kill a carburetor.
You do understand those are not the same engines we have here right?
Does E100 work in standard car engines that were designed for standard gas?
Absolutely not. You need to have an ethanol content sensor and a ECU calibrated to run ethonol. You can make more horse power with ethonol because it burns cooler, and also because you burn more of it (more fuel being sprayed in cylinders acts as a coolant to some extent) however there is a greater consumption (less mpg). Also why u must have sensors and calibrated ECU as you will effectively run real lean on pure ethonol if ur car has no idea what it's burning. On ethonol you will get worse milage, although it's cheaper per gallon so cheaper to run but less range per tank. Modern cars are ok on 10-15% ethonol, but if attracts water into your fuel so gas spoils faster and it gums up as it dries out and will fuck up and clog carbs. It's also bad for old carb gaskets that aren't ethonol safe. This is why u always get that nasty yellow shit clogging the jets in ur lawnmower carbs or bike carbs after it sits all winter. Where I live I try to use ethonol free gas in all my carbed vehicles because ethonol is the devil for carbs (which is why it only got popular with the introduction of fuel injection), and always dodge ethonol if you know the vehicle is going to sit for any more than a couple months.
That's exactly the reason you're supposed to let your mower run dry before storing it for the winter. But I always run some seafoam through it in spring just to be safe.
Remember, more than 10% ethanol is not advised by most manufacturers and may harm your engine.
If this is implemented, it would be better to find ethanol free providers.
Realistically most vehicles made after 2010 have ethanol safe components and fuelling systems that can handle the change in energy density of E30. I'd still try to avoid it though
stuffing corn cob into gas tank EAT IT
only 1.5% of corn grown is edible.
Just replaced a fuel hose that was 5 years old but had rotted though. It’s because of ethanol.
But trump said we don’t need anything from anyone and we already won the war…
Fun fact, this raises the price of corn, and other grains (less of it if they grow more corn) which is mostly used for animal feed. Fertilizer prices will be much higher if corn for ethanol "steals it" from other food.
The dumbest fucking thing.
Yeah, we should have a E100 option like Brazil. But we choose to be Saudi Arabia's bitch.
If you care about greenhouse gasses, then you should be pushing for Zero Ethanol.