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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Ok so the theory goes that the GOP is secretly occupied by the most vicious Dems, the Dems control both parties.

During the civil war, it was the northern Republicans who wanted to abolish slavery and adopt the most leftist posture. The democrats in the south seceded.

After losing the civil war, the Dems vowed to wage a secret forever war in the congress. They did this by infiltrating the GOP and gradually steering it towards rabid facism which, by comparison, made the Dems look left wing. The Dems could then push and pull the center wherever fit their aims and narrative. They could enact and enforce the most racist and classist policies by proxy of the GOP, and then 'fail' to prevent them as the Dems.

By dominating positions of power within both parties, they could gatekeep access to both. Shuttle the hateful extremists to the GOP, funnel the ineffective, flaccid liberals to the Dems. That's why the Dems have been the most vocal opponents of effective leftists.

The GOP needs an aggressive coup to return it to its leftist socialist roots, a party who isn't afraid to meet violence with violence again to counter the democrats' subterfuge and drag the nation back towards its liberal, egalitarian and class-concious destiny.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago
[–] JoeMontayna@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Both sides argument does not apply this round. This is different.

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[–] Tonava@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm just a random outsider and this is besides the topic I guess - but what's with this focus on voting only I keep seeing? You need to affect the candidates so you don't have to choose between evils in the voting booth. Or is it impossible and USAs system so incurably busted already that only luiging all the people in power would work? But why argue only about voting in either case

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Those discussions are happening in some places, but there doesn't seem to be as much here. There are people going for lower state positions, attempts and petitions for getting ranked choice voting, and people trying to challenge from the left in Dem primaries. Which all does have to do with voting, but has the potential to pull Dems more left. People do reach out to their reps, but between money and team sports I'm not sure how effective that is.

The current system and environment is very much built to allow two parties to keep fighting while ignoring third parties, and getting out of that within the confines of the system is a slow process. Slow processes also suffer from people's impatience, often not changing things fast enough and losing support.

[–] Tonava@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

Thanks for the explanation, that makes a lot more sense. I guess the two sides fighting -discourse just tends to dominate platforms like these online, which doesn't exactly make people more patient either... Hopefully these aggressive online vibes don't discourage too many people from taking part on the lower levels, since that really is the only real way to fix things (instead of fully breaking them)

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[–] Transform2942@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

Really makes you question whether the vibes or the backlash have any power in the world

[–] BouteilleBrune@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

and how many have the presence of mind to vote for independent state governor candidates?

americans are either republican or democrat voters, it's more important than their own name

the two-party system is there to stay

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