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Youtube Disliked the Dislikes (europe.pub)
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[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 1 points 8 minutes ago

Aside from complaining, make sure to do something about it. Otherwise there's no point.

  1. Absolutely use uBlock Origin and Sponsorblock on all devices you watch youtube on.
  2. There's a Return Youtube Dislike extension you can use. Bonus: you can use data from it to shame various' companies videos, which is what youtube primarily wanted to avoid by removing dislikes.
  3. For creators mostly - there are other video-sharing websites you can post your content on (or even easily mirror your youtube uploads). Make sure to upload somewhere else too, so that more people can leave youtube forever.

Do whatever you can to harm youtube (or Google more broadly), as well as support alternatives. Memes and complaining by themselves are pointless, and solve zero issues.

[–] TuringCompleteSocialist@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The decision to kill the dislike button is very much strictly anti consumer and marks the beginning of the enshitification of youtube, especially the enshitification of the comment section. It use to be that if someone had the most dogshit opinion, they would be disliked into oblivion and nobody would see it. Now even the worst opinions imaginable will be pushed to the top if it can find 100 like minded mouth breathers, effectively normalizing it in the eyes of the average viewer. Same goes for whole videos too. I desperately wish we would come up with a real federated alternative to it, because right now its actively contributing to the decline of humanity.

[–] macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world 1 points 21 minutes ago

It became shit when googol bought it.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 6 points 19 hours ago

PeerTube?

[–] Raccoon_Rick@altgag.net 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Luckily I have “Return YouTube Dislike” on my modded YouTube client

[–] Comet79@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Afaik these add-ons only count the dislikes from other people who use the add-on. It's a half-measure and doesn't reveal real dislike count.

[–] Raccoon_Rick@altgag.net 6 points 18 hours ago

Correct, it extrapolates the dislike count from the people that use the add-on on the total amount of views. It’s by no means accurate, but gives a general sense of community sentiment towards a specific video. But I still miss the time I could look at a videos vote ratio and easily determine whether or not it was a scam or legit

[–] Loce@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Money... It looks better not to show dislikes and it puts users into echo chamber.

[–] Johnmannesca@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

That's pretty much all social media's pipeline right now, just take a look at Bluesky and you'll see aside from reporting a post/comment there's no way to downvote/dislike.

[–] DevDave@piefed.social 50 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I remember Reddit used to have the ability to show both upvote and downvotes. I miss that feature.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 1 points 8 hours ago

It is possible to see those numbers, it's just super janky. If you click on the upvote count in a web browser, a tooltip pops up showing the breakdown of up vs. down votes. Usually... well, sometimes. It helps to zoom way far in and hit it exactly in the center of the number.

I miss Lemmy's better UI presentation of things, and also its vastly superior searching, but otherwise PieFed seems better in every way.

[–] Zarobi@aussie.zone 30 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Lemmy has this feature which is really nice... -20 points doesn't show +20 and -40. It mentally feels a lot better to know that 20 people agreed with you even if more people disagreed

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 2 points 8 hours ago

Also, +10 & -10 is a lot better than just "1". The former is controversial while the latter is lack of engagement entirely.

[–] DevDave@piefed.social 14 points 1 day ago (13 children)

I often wonder if that is the reason Reddit dropped it, to make controlling and influencing the user base easier? A joke example, seeing +100 to -99 votes regarding the sacrilege or glory of pineapple on pizza is a lot different then just +1 or -1

Reddit's shadow ban system is another part of why I don't trust them. Plenty of times I've seen posts where metadata says there are multiple comments but instead its empty without even the [deleted by reddit] trail. Could be just their distributed database taking its sweet ass time to become consistent or maybe those people are on some sort of shit list?

For myself I know I keep saying something that results in me getting some extra attention from an LLM because I keep getting sub 30 second instant bans and warnings for ambiguous comments that sound threatening but aren't. I lost a 20 year old account because of the comment "We should never have killed that fucking bear" being determined as advocating violence.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 2 points 10 hours ago

Also makes it easier to fudge vote totals in order to promote content they want to force on people. Now they just need to increase one number, rather than trying to give it a believable number of upvotes and downvotes.

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[–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 107 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Any service only cares about engagement so the dislike was never really useful because the core of engagement is rage bait. The only way to truly downvote content is to not engage with it whatsoever. Ex. The only way to dislike Instagram is to not use the platform

[–] Sylence@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 hours ago

The opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference

[–] jdr@lemmy.ml 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

You mean it can't detect hatewatching?

[–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 2 points 35 minutes ago

It's unfortunately still engagement and it feeds the algorithm all the same.

[–] turdas@suppo.fi 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The problem is that sometimes you can't know whether the content is worth engaging until you view it. At least YouTube shorts still have the "Don't recommend channel" option.

[–] TuringCompleteSocialist@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yea, about that. I have a channel that no matter how many times i say "don't recommend me this channel" i would keep getting it, to comedic effect. Like i would press the button and then immediately get the same channel 4 times in a row. I have now pressed that button maybe 30 times and it is still showing up. Fuck YouTube.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 2 points 10 hours ago

youtube.com/feed/subscriptions

Set that as your default youtube homepage. It shows you ONLY channels you're subscribed to, with all their most recent videos in chronological order. No algorithm, and only what you want to see.

I'm sure youtube will kill that sooner or later, but for now, it's the only way to go.

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[–] omodasonya3@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

I witnessed it appear and then disappear, a strange feeling indeed.

[–] udc@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Does anyone know is there a reason why they got rid of dislike? I'd have thought they'd want it to help improve recommendations?

[–] BigDiction@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

The main reason cited was that downvotes discouraged creators from naming and uploading content. There’s probably some truth to it. If I got served with a 10 minute tutorial video and a 60% vote ratio I’m probably not watching that very far.

[–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 8 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

If I recall correctly, they said it was to preview "review bombing" of small channel. They said that a few weeks after YouTube's own channel published one of the most disliked video ever (YouTube rewind).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-disliked_YouTube_videos

[–] logan_hero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 12 hours ago

December 13th 2021(og dislike removal day) happened like 3 years after rewind 2018 dislike bombing

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 19 hours ago

It's the children who are wrong.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They want more money. Helping the user is only good if it makes money. Anyway, down votes give viewers more information, and probably YT wants to doctor the data in a way that downvotes block.

For example, I would always downvote AI content if allowed. So would countless others. But YT wants people to watch it, right? So they gotta suppress our negative feedback.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Youtube wants you to brainlessly watch whatever the algorithm spits at you next. Ideally, you'd have no information at all about the video before watching it. No title, no creator name, no view count, no thumbnail, nothing. Just CONSOOM. Attach their autoplay slop hose directly to your mouth and don't ask questions about what's flowing through it.

[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It was routinely being gamed, made it kinda useless for semi popular stuff when you couldn't tell if something was actually garbage, or just had upset the wrong people.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 19 hours ago

Honestly I'd rather have that now, a sizable minority of users hate AI videos.

[–] finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

https://returnyoutubedislike.com/

[–] brokenwing@discuss.tchncs.de 52 points 1 day ago (1 children)

YouTube could only envy Pornhub.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Pornhub has way better content

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 3 points 10 hours ago

I'm working on starting a completely SFW channel, and I legitimately am considering posting the videos on Pornhub rather than youtube.

[–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

AND they even have porn, too!

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[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So, what are good alternatives to YouTube and how do I get there?

[–] DrSoap@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

It breaks my heart that it's come to this. I used YouTube my whole life to learn. It's like a living breathing encyclopedia for art, math, science and culture. More than 2 decades of pure human knowledge is on there. I've learned more than I could ever hope to learn from just using books and my library. Some things are best absorbed visually.

And now, I find myself thinking the same thing as you. I don't want to leave these decades of knowledge behind. Some channels have been dead for years but what they taught is irreplaceable. It's so incredibly unfair that such a collective effort of the world can be bought up by a giant corporation and exploited.

I guess the same goes with what AI did to decades of written knowledge. Decades of people creating content just trying to help others, and it's being looked at with dollar signs.

Doesn't seem fair.

[–] joyjoy@piefed.social 25 points 1 day ago

When you remove the value of dislikes, it also removes the value of likes to users.

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