the biggest problem is banking and government apps that require strong play integrity... this kills the custom rom
this post was submitted on 05 Jul 2026
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Depends on your country .
If you're doing banking on a phone, lol, you're doing it wrong.
yeah... stuck with a phone loaded with spyware cus of that :x
i hope jolla and their sailfishos become a viable option in the future
Lineage themselves repeatedly state their OS is not degoogled, but using it is definitely much better than using stock android.
Lineage is degoogled...if you don't install gapps
Lineage devs say otherwise, repeatedly.
Recently lent a family member an old phone and took a chance by leaving GrapheneOS on it. Of course they reinstalled all the google apps but it's cool to see they can still get some benefit without major issues.
Yes
I wish a Linux based OS worked on my Pixel 8. I run Graphene, but the dream of pocketable then dockable Linux is one I've had for years.
As the owner of both a Pixel 8 running Graphene and a Pinephone, you really aren't missing anything.
The missing feature I really wish FairPhone 6 had.
Yeah I really want a Fairphone.
Short answer: yes
Long answer: yes totally!
While I agree (and I'm largely degoogled for a couple years now), there are a few things that make it quite a pain.
Maps being the biggest one. I have 5 mapping apps (CoMaps, Magic Earth, CoPilot, Organic, Waze and Gmaps) and even the combo of them doesn't approach what GMaps can do, unfortunately.
I've paid for CoPilot to have true offline mapping, I would pay for an app that can do what GMaps does.
But the average person will have a real hard time de-googling, unfortunately. Google has done an exceptional job locking people in.
Given how many times google maps has been wrong and OSM right, I think I will stick with OSM.
What exactly are you missing? The /e/os team has their own FOSS maps app in beta. In my experience it's not that great, but you seem like someone who can't get enough map apps (˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶)
Not OP, but I can't find replacements for two Google maps uses:
- Share my location/eta travel. My spouse and I use this fairly extensively.
- Traffic/road condition/police reporting - the "Object in road" has saved me a few times from large debris (when that alert comes up, I slow down and make sure there's visibility for the road ahead).
I have rarely found the store/town/restaurant I was selling in OSM Apps. There is no traffic data. I can't search for places in maps that I haven't downloaded already - this makes sense, but it means I can't just look up a place of I don't already know where it is.
To be fair, Google maps has started to get super shitty with their search - especially voice. I forget if it's normal maps or Android Auto maps, but one of them has started trying to open apps instead of actually navigating to places.
Maybe gmaps will keep getting worse and worse and eventually osm maps will catch up.
Haven't read article yet, but my experience jumping to Graphene: it was surprisingly easy, but I'm a tech nerd who already understands a lot / has reps and sets on digging through documents to learn. Its definitely not one-for-one swap with Android and there are some minor inconveniences I put up with that some in my family would never tolerate.
Overall: doable and worth it. Expect at least a small learning curve as you do it.
What are the minor inconveniences you're referring to? I've run e/os on a Fairphone for a while so I'm pretty sure they will be similar but I've never used graphene so I'm curious
there's just no reason to have gapps installed even on a manufacturer rom unless you really need the google safetynet shits
Here in Brazil some apps (such as banking apps) demand it. I used it sandboxed on GrapheneOS.
What about notifications
Microg. But in the end the real obstacle is devs not adding unified push support which as I understand is not that immense. Work sure, but not insurmountable.
Which OS can easily be installed on an HMD skyline.