,,, Carney’s MOU with Alberta calls for Carbon Capture and Storage (CCS), purportedly to ameliorate environmental damage. But this is still a very costly, unproven technology. In Saskatchewan it has only achieved 60 per cent efficiency

Ccs is a scam. Cheaper energy than coal can be achieved 10 months of the year, in canada, with coal plant as backup. Much lower emissions than 60% capture, and bigger negative of ccs is that it costs 10$ per watt. Ballpark of nuclear plants. Solar + batteries is $1 per watt.

[–] kevincox@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 days ago

Yeah, carbon capture doesn't math. I think the saying is that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

The only reason why it is promoted is because the fossil fuel cartels push it as it moves the blame and focus from them to someone else's problem. Then a bunch of garbage "carbon credit" companies start up and make a lot of noise while doing basically nothing. All the while they can keep pushing for fossil fuel projects because "it's fine, carbon capture will solve it".

[–] AGM@lemmy.ca 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Stirring up nationalist sentiments with the idea of an outside threat to make yourself the national champion and having a populace rally behind you with their political support as they huddle under the flag is incredibly powerful in electoral politics, but politics for the public and politics behind closed doors with powerful stakeholders are never the same.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

with the idea of an outside threat to make yourself the national champion

That threat isn't one of Carney's (or even Trudeau's) making.

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[–] Radical_Socialist_t00t@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I wish red & blue would just fuse their parties at this point. Only difference left between LPC & CPC at this point is that the CPC is filled with nazis, the differences end there really. Hopefully we get an orange surge wave next election and then eventually, flush capitalism down the toilet.

[–] UserMail@piefed.ca 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I like the NDP and Greens, but I can't vote for them unless their parties merge. They get very little votes here.

If after they merge, pick up a bunch of votes, implement stratgic voting, they could decide to split again afterwards if they wish.

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

In my experience the NDP is willing to burn ecological resources for trivial short term gains. They are a worker party, which is fine, but they often treat 'jobs' as a goal in itself, rather than a route to quality of people's lives.

You can make lots of jobs logging old growth and building out fossil fuel infrastructure.

Edit: don't get me wrong, I'll still vote for them over other options, but my heart and wallet are with the Greens.

[–] karlhungus@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I don't get that sense of NDP from Avi Lewis at all.

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Avi Lewis is good people, but institutionally i don't see the NDP prioroizing economic and environmental sustainability. If it comes down to closing mills or saving scraps of old growth forest, or bulking up our renewables, I'm not yet convinced he'd make what i consider the right call. Unpopular sacrifices will need to happen to forestall dosaster.

[–] karlhungus@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

We can do better, which I believe they would do, with balance. Certainly better than carney or pete.

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago

Yeah, I'm not the type to throw out the baby with the bathwater or fall for the 'every party sucks so why bother' propaganda. I'll vote as closely as I can to my preferences with an eye on the bigger picture.

And of course advocate and vote towards better representation. FPTP is garbage and forces me to make decisions i don't like.

[–] Levi@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago

Yeah, I really don't want Green and NDP to merge. NDP seem to hate the environment. I'd have nobody left to vote for.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

The problem is that they only appeal to single issue voters because their candidates are single issue voters. None of these candidates come across as "in it for the people." They come across as idealogues with little consideration for 3/4's of what their job would actually entail.

I would vote for an eco-socialist party, but none exists. Avi seems to be taking the NDP in a better direction, but unless he really steps up his charisma game I don't think he's gonna make middle class folks see the writing on the wall.

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