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ok so I think I finnally get why sometimes the site seems to not respond to voting. I thought it was the instances having issues. The problematic thing for me is there is a setting to not show things you interacted with when you refresh the page. I upvote everything now because of that as I scroll all. It was actually the feature that really improved my experience. Now though since I can't vote after a set period of time all of a sudden my feed gets clogged. I don't really care about the voting but if this is a thing then @rimu@piefed.social can we get a neutral read thing to click in the feed to mark something as interacted with that won't hit a limit? EDITED - hey hope you see the edit but what about an option to make votes just be a personal thing and not go out which would not be limited. I often advocate that voting should just be a user piece of information to curate the feed.

I've effectively disabled it by setting the quota so absurdly high, even a bot wouldn't be able to hit it. I understand his reasoning, and I don't agree. It's good that Admins can set the quota themselves.

I know of at least one prolific person (PugJesus) that quit the fediverse because of it. And they did post a lot to cool niche communities I am subscribed to, and I enjoyed their contributions. Unfortunately they do not want to do another instance migration.

I'm glad Rimu disclosed it either way, instead of silently adding it.

It made me stop using piefed.social and start using sopuli.xyz again

I'm not replying to Rimu's comment, because I don't want to get into it with him again, but the graph he posted can't be used as evidence of anything. The data isn't normalized to activity (posts, comments, voting).

If half the people left after the 1.7 implementation, you'd also see a drop in network activity. Based on our (Rimu and I's) previous discussion, there was a significant drop in activity (comments and posts) at that time (I don't have data on votes so can't confidently state they dropped too during that time, but I would be surprised if they didn't correlate with the posts and comments.

As one of the other commentors said, pugjesus left, which I think, was unfortunate but understandable. I was considering leaving, but .zip removed the limit and I believe several other instances did as well.

I miss upvoting basically every post I see and I miss PugJesus

I think it has no impact on me. My quote bar is almost empty. If I click on your account, there doesn't seem to be a lot of votes which federate to my one-person instance. Idk if my instance broke but it says 84 votes total and doesn't even show show any line. And I've been clicking on random accounts during the last weeks to see what kind of impact this has, and I rarely see anyone exceed 25%. Mind that I'm not really into politic and memes. Maybe YMMV if you're part of those communities.

It doesn't limit that 10% minority, it limits the 0.02% minority. And that 0.02% were not the ones making posts the most, they were voting the most.

Please see the numbers at https://piefed.social/c/fediverse@piefed.social/p/2190040/who-decides-what-you-see-on-the-fediverse-a-look-at-voting-patterns

In this graph we see CPU usage (green line) and network activity (orange line) for the last month. The change was introduced around 3rd of July. Visible on the far left of the graph is a few days of what it used to be like.

I think it's a cool idea, there is so much empty engagement for engagement's sake by a super small handful of accounts that it's basically just spam. I can't imagine someone checking out the fediverse is going to see endless feed old memes and decide this is superior to reddit in any way.

Not all of us want an endless content feed, I like slower social media with more thoughtful and respectful discussions and I like seeing developers that understand that and try to bake it in.