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[–] lizzzy@feddit.uk 20 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Gun laws not changing after every mass shooting incident

[–] ohshit604@lemmy.halstead.host 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Quick search indicates 342 million people in the United States according to their census, i tried to find the total amount of American citizens but that statistics doesn’t appear easy to find, if we divide it in half and say 171 million US citizens who all potentially own 1 maybe 2 maybe 5 maybe 10 firearms, even if the laws were to change federally at any point do you think every citizen is going to comply?

Even the Canadian government struggles confiscating firearms from licensed owners, and that’s closer to 2 million firearms now prohibited, I can’t imagine how Americans would handle it.

[–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 hours ago

Yeah most countries never admit to anything or declassify anything. It just disappears to time..

[–] kadotux@sopuli.xyz 25 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

Yeah it's gotta be the daily allegiance to the flag -thing for me. That shit hella weird.

[–] argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org 1 points 5 minutes ago

@kadotux @cm0002 @Bytemeister @merc

Having read the Constitution and Declaration of Independence as a kid (they were required reading in school), it seems to me that the flag should be pledging allegiance to *us*, not the other way around.

[–] BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip 6 points 11 hours ago

Man that shit was hella weird growing up.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I stopped saying the whole pledge in kindergarten. Didn't seem right to pledge to a god I didn't believe in.

Pretty much stopped saying it all together after 9/11

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

"I pledge allegiance to the the Flag of the United States..."

Unless you think the flag is a god, you're not pledging to a god, you're pledging to a piece of fabric, or to the design printed on that fabric. Which, honestly, is a lot weirder. How can one have allegiance to a flag? What about the opposite, is it possible to be disloyal to a flag?

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

...To which it stands, one nation, under god...

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, god is mentioned as an additional clause, but you're pledging to the flag.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 26 minutes ago

Yes... Pledging allegiance... To a flag.... Representing a Republic... That exists by/for god...

I mean, I didn't look into it that much at first, I was in kindergarten FFS, but I remember thinking it was funny that God was mentioned in the pledge, and how he was also mentioned in the prayers at Grandma's church, and I thought I shouldn't lie and say the "under god" part since I didn't believe.

[–] Logarrhythmia@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Huh, just checked the text and I was surprised to find that the god part was only added in 1954.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 23 minutes ago

Yep, because soviet spies were godless heathens who can't/won't lie about their faith in order to sneak into the US.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 hours ago

OMG this. Straight up indoctrination. And our parents were like Rah Rah, GOOOO TEAM!!!!

Shit looks sketchier the farther we get away from the previous world war.

[–] Themosthighstrange@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

someone post all the major things the cia has done in the last 70 years by bullet point, much has been declassified and the fact none of the public is freaking out over the things they have done is maddening

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago

Well yeah, the CIA has done horrible stuff in the 40s, and the 50s, and the 60s... And the 70s and 80s and 90s... And some stuff in the 00s.

But now? They probably learned their lesson.

[–] leg@leminal.space 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I fruck out about it the first 10 or so times I found out about these things, but it doesn't hit the same after a while. This is just what the US is. I vote, I speak my mind, I engage in a little domestic terrorism, but ultimately I don't have enough power to change things in my lifetime. I'm crossing my fingers for an organized network of assassins with a conscience to materialize.

[–] Themosthighstrange@lemmy.world -3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

people who are usually morally right, usually don't kill other people

[–] leg@leminal.space 2 points 7 hours ago

I tend to agree. I would just like if a certain type of person didn't have the kind of power that destroys the environment and worsens lives for ends that only serve to benefit that same type of person. How that happens doesn't matter to me, but assassins would be quick and final. Collective action from the people would make me feel better for the future though.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 hours ago

No no no. We say two election cycles ago, the guy in charge did this. Or that old director of the FBI did this, after he dies and can't say fuck no the president demanded it.

The only weird part is that we unclassify anything. And that only happens when they're trying to buy some public trust.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

Ice (in shops, in hotels, in restaurants, in vending machines, in gas stations... everywhere) and ice cold air conditioning.

[–] craftrabbit@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago

I think we could do a little trade with the air conditioning, because where I live every house is heated to like 24°C when it's below freezing outside

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 1 points 9 hours ago

And it's amazing

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