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[–] FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Like the Muslim voters in Michigan that voted for Trump because they didn't like Harris' support of Israel and then immediately had ICE breathing down their necks

[–] leverage@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. If you don't want to be deported, you're going to have to be okay with genociding some folks.

[–] FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

Or they could have voted for Harris and not had to deal with mass deportations and then tried to stop the genocidal acts. Instead they voted to continue the genocidal acts AND get deported. If the problem persists either way, why vote to fuck yourself twice?

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

"Imperfect Aliens" ok so only a "little" veiled racism is okay? Like in the good old days I guess.

[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 1 points 2 months ago

Allies = Aliens???

[–] erin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago

I'd read again just to double check.

[–] VasovagalSyncope@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

AI cancer

Also Neoliberals are controlled opposition who have been shrugging their shoulders for 50 years, they are complicit or impotent.

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The more i read "neoliberal" in political movement discussions, the more i get the feeling its the new "slap this label on anything you dont fully agree with to disqualify them imedietly"-label

[–] VasovagalSyncope@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Did you just "everyone I don't like is a nazi" me?

Words have meaning dummy

Neoliberals differ from leftists because Neoliberalism depends on maintaining the status quo and appealing to Capital, which is not helpful when we need to redistribute wealth.

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I didnt. Nore was it my intend.

I mearly stated that i am observing people throwing this word around, slapping it on anyone they disagree with.

More ofc in online "discussions" than in irl.

I know they differ. I get called neo liberal for saying a violent uprising isnt the way to archive socialism and the soviet union as well as china, Laos and vietnam were/are evil countrys that did evil things and perverted what socialism is about

[–] VasovagalSyncope@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Ok keep denying what you can look an inch upward and see you wrote.

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[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

WhY Do YoU SuPpOrT GeNoCiDe?

[–] leverage@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

It's an unfortunate but necessary genocide

Edit: I don't support it!! But at this point it's pretty clear it's necessary, no? As liberals we need to be honest with ourselves at least.

[–] zippo@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

i guess you need to spell out for me exactly how wiping out an entire culture of innocent human beings in cold blood is "necessary"

idk if you're just trolling for attention but saying shit like that and calling it "unfortunate"... dude wtf

[–] ZMoney@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I'll bite. What do we as liberals get out of this genocide? Are you gonna say our stock in Lockheed will go up? Because not all of us liberals have stock in Lockheed.

[–] leverage@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well the democrats were very clearly pro genocide so idk why you would think it's not part of the liberal platform???? Don't the democrats represent us?

[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

Everyone see what this person is doing? Thats the point of the original post.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sadly, I keep trying to explain this to tankies, but they insisted NOT voting for Kamala because she wasn't going to use the Dragon Balls to bring back every Palestinian killed by Israel was a power move...

Anyway, that's how Donald Trump got re-elected

[–] leverage@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You're right. We liberals saw that Kamala and Biden did only the bare minimum genocide necessary. It's better than the extreme amounts of genocide trump is doing. Tankies often miss this point.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago

sighs

The point isn't that there's a magical "Correct Amount" of genocide that is acceptable.

The point is that there is no magical solution that saves Palestine, there was however an option that made an already horrible scenario even worse, and that's the option we took in large part thanks to people who thought not voting would be good for anyone's health.

Kamala may not have cared about the lives she was helping snuff out under Biden's watchful eye, but at least she wasn't outright planning to build a fucking resort atop the mass graves. (Trump Gaza ring any bells to you?)

By the way, I'm a transwoman, I'm seeing ciswomen get awarded for "Standing up" against my kind, as my existence is being publically reframed as an affront to women's rights in what I can only imagine is the greatest dream TERF-kind ever had.

This wouldn't be happening under Kamala.

There are already states planning to illegalize "Gender Identity Fraud" in attempt to CRIMINALIZE MY VERY EXISTENCE

[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"We liberals".

Yeah right. Troll harder.

[–] leverage@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago

I don't know what you want from me, if the genocide was unnecessary then why did the dems allow it to happen? Like clearly it is necessary for our democracy?

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I really wish my fellow "progressives" would get it through their heads how deeply true it is that perfection is the enemy of progress. It's supremely ironic that so many people who say they value freedom and individuality are so ABSOLUTELY intolerant of any slight deviations from what they see as moral perfection and adherence to doctrines. It's like you're either a hundred percent right or ten thousand percent wrong, and even suggesting there can be an in-between is being "complicit". Lighten the fuck up or we'll never get anywhere.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"I can't vote for Harris! She was endorsed by Dick Cheney!"

By that logic, none of the people threatened by the Nazis should have accepted help from Imperialist England and racist USA.

[–] superniceperson@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Voting for a genocidal nazi to prevent another genocidal nazi is not how you stop genocidal nazis. This poster is not about electoralism, but addressing its inherent failure in any state wherein the discussion on genocide is not whether or not to do it, but to whom.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Congratulations.

You made the Gaza genocide worse, enabled Israel to attack more countries, screwed the people of Ukraine, and got mass deportations and attacks on transpeople in the USA.

Keep telling me what a great job you did.

Adults realize that sometimes there are no good choices, on bad ones and terrible ones.

[–] superniceperson@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

No, you people and the fascist slogan of 'vote blue no matter who,' did quite literally all of that. Liberals have been the only people in history to willingly embrace fascism, and you've done it again. Each time so far by voting for the lesser evil by your fucked up definition until it just happens. All because you're scared of classless societies.

Liberals appointed Hitler to stop them evil commies, liberals chose to get trump elected to stop them evil democratic socialists.

I'm pretty sure next time you'll elect super Hitler to stop them evil neoliberals that are just too left wing for you all.

[–] Haess@lemmynsfw.com -1 points 2 months ago

This is pretty fucking stupid.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So, you take no blame for an election that happened last year, but blame me for an election that happened long before I was born?

Okay, you win.

[–] superniceperson@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You picked your ideology willingly, despite knowing what it always leads to. You get no sympathy or assumption of good faith from me.

And no, I don't take any blame for voting against genocide while protesting in the street against the uniparty. You voted for genocide.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And no, I don’t take any blame

I'm shocked by that. Absolutely stunned.

[–] superniceperson@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I've seen the bodies resulting from what makes you cheer, your boos mean nothing to me.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Congratulations. You'll see bodies in the street outside your house soon enough.

[–] superniceperson@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Congrats, you've been privileged enough and rich enough to not see that yet. The rest of us have been living the result of white liberal 'peace,' and won't be experiencing anything different. Except some of the bodies might be white middle class now, and that's what scares you.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago

lol!

Typical. You think we should treat all people equally, but if they disagree with you it's because they are rich and privileged.

So open minded.