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US and Ukraine Hatch 'Ceasefire' Travesty (simplicius76.substack.com)

submitted 7 months ago by badwetter@kbin.melroy.org to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml

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The US and Ukraine have finalized a ‘temporary ceasefire deal’ during the Jeddah talks, which were meant to be a kind of conciliatory round two chance for Ukraine to amend for Zelensky’s faux pas.

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[–] jaxxed@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

"Faux pas" - you day didn't smile while eatng the poop that we served you.

[–] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 7 months ago

Anyone who thought that Trump wouldn't be just another imperialist of the same variety as Biden has egg on their face. Great man theory bunk yet again.

[–] gimmelemmy@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This article seems to be based around an assumption that the entire story of what is going on in Ukraine is obvious on its face. What is obvious is that the level of smoke and mirrors employed in this situation is on a generational scale. There are adults who were not alive to witness the last time we witnessed this level of obfuscation, control of the narrative, and use of the age old tactic of distraction

Besides all of that, this article seems to pick and choose its obvious points and disregard many others

All of that is to say that this is part of the overall effort, a position which is further supported by the fact that this article is printed by the esteemed simplicius. You know, that renowned author of insightful commentary that we all know so well

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

Chatgpt ass comment

[–] belastend@slrpnk.net 0 points 7 months ago

Love how an attack on russian soil is somehow a provocation. Mfers, you are at war. Sorry to inconvenience you.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.ml -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

The boxer on the ropes and his trainer deciding to have an extra time-out.
Surely the other boxer must accept or he is clearly not of good will.

And the exact same "ball in Russia's court" tweets LOL
EU crying about not being taken seriously and demanding respect.
Here they are again reading what the note says dictated by their US masters. Pathetic clowns

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Lmao even the usually 0% critical about Ukraine Polish media had a little pause over this truly nonsensical pseudodiplomatic farce. Fortunately for them it was a little pause and the script was soon followed up as before with a more pressure in voice.

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

I don't expect the invader to accept a proposal to stop their invasion. Hopefully Trump realizes this soon and surges support to Ukraine to force Russia to stop their invasion.

Trump immediately announced all previous restrictions on weapons aid and intel sharing to be lifted from Ukraine

Seems he is half-way there in doing what needs to be done to stop Russia's invasion.

[–] commander@lemmings.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

and surges support to Ukraine to force Russia to stop their invasion.

How? Ukraine will need troops from additional armies in order to win against Russia.

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So did Viet Nam, right?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The regime the west is supporting in Ukraine is precisely in the position the south Vietnamese regime was.

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And Murca fucked that up too.

[–] badwetter@kbin.melroy.org 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

@60d@lemmy.ca

The USA hasn't won a single war since WW2.

@yogthos@lemmy.ml

[+] Jimius@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Cowardly bombing a country is not 'fighting a war'
Even then, like the ukranians you mostly used a proxy, the Kurds and other local factions to do the fighting for you.
And in good american tradition you threw them under the bus later.

[+] Jimius@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

First of all how old were you when it happened?
I bet you got the sanitised, revisionist version, after some years plenty believed it had to do with WMD's and never heard of the US warcrimes. (Same thing happened after decades of Hollywood fantasy movie propaganda when people in EU began to believe the US won the war and not the never mentioned Soviets)
I'm sure I know more about it or history in general you since we have better education than you Canadians and.
I'm sure with the many many SS Galicia warcriminals that moved there, and their offspring like Freeland whitewashing them I think you probably don't know enough about your own country.

[–] badwetter@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

@Bloomcole@lemmy.ml

Sadly, you're right about my country — most Canadians don't know that many Ukrainian Banderaites immigrated to Canada during the Cold War. They had to be stringent anti-communists, so obviously that would be people from western Ukraine. And yes, just like our former Deputy PM, Chrystia Freeland. Her Grandfather was an official Nazi. I've heard that Alberta has some statues glorifying Bandera, possibly in Sask and Manitoba too, where there are other pockets of Ukrainian diaspora. It appears that some Canadians on Lemmy are followers of this ideology, judging by many of their comments, like the fool you're responding to. Probably why the western provinces of Canada Alberta always vote hard right.

@BombOmOm@lemmy.world @commander@lemmings.world @60d@lemmy.ca @yogthos@lemmy.ml @Jimius@lemmy.ml

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And it continues: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2024/12/30/cypl-d30.html

immigrated to Canada during the Cold War.

Also yes, but my link shows the west actively rescued and evacuated the worst SS nazis even during the war and sent them there.
Others followed later.
They figured it was a good way to counter the left-wing sentiments many earlier immigrants had. Ironically many of them Ukrainian communists.
Here's a good read on how it evolved and how they now have power:
https://thegrayzone.com/2020/03/26/canadian-conservative-party-bandera-canada/
Good luck over there.

[–] badwetter@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 7 months ago

@Bloomcole@lemmy.ml

Thanks, yes knew about this. NASA was successful because of German research and the lead technical person was a von Braun, IIRC. West German Intelligence was staffed by many former Gestapo too. They figured it was a good way to counter the Soviets and East Germans in Europe.

@BombOmOm@lemmy.world @commander@lemmings.world @60d@lemmy.ca @yogthos@lemmy.ml @Jimius@lemmy.ml

[–] badwetter@kbin.melroy.org -1 points 7 months ago

@BombOmOm@lemmy.world I doubt very much that the USA could stop the Russians, even if they wanted too.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

hope you're ready to go fight in Ukraine

[–] jaxxed@lemmy.ml -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

far down the slippery slope on this one.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nah, it's not a slippery slope to suggest that people who want wars should fight in them. It's funny how brave y'all are when it's other people dying for your ideology.

[–] jaxxed@lemmy.ml -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's a slippery slope fallacy to suggest that supporting Ukraine means that they will be enlisted and sent to the front lines.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago

Thanks for clarifying that you don't understand what slippery slope fallacy is.