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[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

To me those 11% are worse than the other 89%. The 89% are mentally disabled and have an excuse.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

removed you need to claw back real change. That will get you voters.

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

So what, the other 89% are pedophiles?

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

With a lobotomy?

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago

I somehow doubt it.

[–] Hayduke@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If democrats just inch a little more to the right, it’s sure to be fruitful this time around.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 day ago

I mean, it's worked all those other times. /s

[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 33 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Democrats would rather win over Trump voters than move left even one inch

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

They know to whom else are you going to vote.

[–] monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Well they show up to vote…

[–] DrDeadCrash@programming.dev 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

They show up to vote for what they want, the left isn't being offered anything to vote for. The Dems screwed over leftists at every opportunity, I want my 2016 and 2020 and 2024 primaries back.

[–] monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Well stay home and get nothing then. Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.

[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

If we vote we get nothing. So I stopped voting

[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Great for the Dems I guess 🤷🏻‍♀️

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 41 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Large majorities favor raising the minimum wage, import limits to protect jobs, increasing spending on social security and Medicare, using federal power to bring down the cost of prescription drugs, expanding federal funding for public schools, making it easier to join a union, increasing infrastructure spending, implementing a millionaires’ tax, and even the notion of a job guarantee.

This is how "opening up to the Republican centrist voters" looks like BTW, not parading Cheney around on a stage.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is how “opening up to the Republican centrist voters” looks like

No, it's not.

This us moving to the left.

And the very very sad fact is the people who had been running the party for decades knew it was that easy if it worked for Barack Hussein Obama in 2008, it will still work today. But the wealthy donate money to both sides to ensure that's not an option.

That is no longer the case. The failures of the 2024 election made the voting members of the DNC finally pivot away from neoliberals and named a chair who legitimately runs fair primaries and will support anyone with a D by their name in the general.

The big is already done and settled, the people have a party again.

We just have to try and prevent people from falling from billionaire propaganda whose goal is to depress dem.primary turnout.

No matter what happens, we need a shit ton of turnout in the next presidential primary. If a neoliberal somehow wins due to depressed turnout, and they win the general....

Then they'll put the neoliberals back in charge of the DNC and we lose the best chance we've had in over 50 years to actually fix our political system. If it doesn't work this time, it's likely our last chance for a very long time, at least peacefully

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, it’s not.

This us moving to the left.

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If Republican right wing voters and Democratic left wing voters both want to tax millionaires, unionise, public funding for healthcare and education, then that is the policial centre by definition.

And anyone not for these things is a far right radical, including the neolib wing of the DNC.

My point is that despite how it is portrayed everywhere, the US is not in general a right wing conservative country, and neither are the rural areas.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

then that is the policial centre by definition.

By the shitty neoliberl "logic" that got us into this exact scenario

It's crazy to still be repeating this, but:

Stop listening to what neoliberals told you. Virtually none of it was based on fact it was just whatever they thought would excuse their behavior.

Doing what you suggested is to the left of both parties last presidential candidate. Voters don't want that because some voters from both parties want it

They want it because voters across the political spectrum approve of progressive policy

That's why the billionaires are so fucking scared

[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 2 days ago

You still don’t understand that your efforts are part of what got Trump elected?

When will you start acting differently?

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 4 points 2 days ago

Import limits don’t protect jobs. They make it so that foreign products compete more in other markets that domestic products want to succeed in.

[–] LovingHippieCat@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Harris had the majority of that on her platform and no one seemed to even care, acting as if she's literally just Trump lite despite being incredibly far from that.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

She didn't say she would do a single one of those things.

[–] LovingHippieCat@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

She said she wanted the minimum wage increased to "at least $15": https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/23/politics/federal-minimum-wage-harris-trump

She talked about how she wanted to invest more in infrastructure in the debate when talking about the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, saying it was a good start but there needs to be more. Here's a link to details about how that would look (largely investment in new green energy productions and building millions of affordable homes which she talked multiple times): https://www.mintz.com/insights-center/viewpoints/2236/2024-09-11-_024-pre-election-analysis-infrastructure

She talked about raising the top tax rate to 39.6% and introduce a unrealized gains tax on people who have more than 100 million in unrealized gains in the stock market, as well as an increase in the core capital gains tax (while not a "millionaires tax" it's definitely something more likely to be passed as it impacts the most rich people out there as opposed to some that might have just gotten lucky and saved enough to get a million or two dollars. Could be better but still to say she didn't support taxing the rich is BS.). Here's a thing breaking down all her tax policies https://apps.urban.org/features/2024-candidates-tax-policy/

She literally was in the administration that was using the power of medicare to negotiate prices for 10 prescription drugs to be lower. And always framed it as "the first 10" instead of the only 10. Here's here literally statement last august with that same phrasing: https://bidenwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/08/15/statement-from-vice-president-kamala-harris-on-lower-prescription-drug-prices/

Here's an article about how the DNC platform, and thus Harris' platform, would have pushed for a lot of new investments in public education (including universal Pre-K and being against "school choice" BS) which would have required increased federal funding: https://www.edweek.org/policy-politics/where-does-kamala-harris-stand-on-education-inside-the-2024-democratic-platform/2024/08

The Biden Administration that she was apart of was incredibly pro-union and implemented multiple rules in the federal government that made it easier to join a union and there was no reason to think she would be any different especially since she openly talked about how important unions are and was the only candidate to be pro the dock worker strike: https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/02/harris-striking-dockworkers-trump-00182203

Now, If I can count correctly, her supporting 6 is a lot more than "not a single one of those things" and is also a majority of the 9 that were listed.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Damn too bad none of that reached people.

She should have campaigned on that

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

They bring receipts and you can't just say "oh I was wrong."

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

So, they weren't. I remember biden cracking down on a5lt least one major strike.

But if they had been, theyre saying it would've been a great platform to run on, and neither did. The campaigns were incompetent.

[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

you know those are things that Congress has to do, right?

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Yes?

You know politicians lie?

Biden said he would wipe out the student debt and make college free. He literally said that.

Yeah yeah i know his hands were tied, most powerful man in the world is somehow totally impotent. I'm over the convenient excuses for Dem failures that make their doners happy.

[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Win them back? Fuck that, send them to the gallows. Traitors.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

This is worth a read, tbh

I think the DNC strategy of letting the Overton window lead them by the nose is deeply fucking stupid too, but working on deprogramming the maga cultists is frankly unrelated to the Democratic Party - and in fact, the process would likely be helped by doing one’s best to leave political parties largely out of the discussion altogether.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

I think the DNC strategy

The old strategy of the old DNC...

Which has nothing to do with the current strategy of the current DNC.

https://democrats.org/news/dnc-and-asdc-announces-organize-everywhere-win-anywhere-strategy-largest-ever-monthly-dnc-investment-into-democratic-state-and-territory-parties/

the process would likely be helped by doing one’s best to leave political parties largely out of the discussion altogether.

There is a giant propaganda push right now to convince dem voters to ignore the Dems party, especially it's primaries.

Because the billionaires who own American media no longer control the DNC

Please don't fall for it.

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

If the blatant pedophilia doesn't do it im not sure what will.

[–] kyub@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 days ago

Well, it's too late. They needed to be not stupid during the last election. Now, Trump will likely just continue his reign of destruction, ignoring opposition, constitution and courts.