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Basically the forced shift to the enshittified Windows 11 in october has me eyeing the fence a lot. But all I know about Linux is 1: it's a cantankerous beast that can smell your fear and lack of computer skills and 2: that's apparently not true any more? Making the change has slowly become a more real possibility for me, though I'm pretty much a fairly casual PC-user, I don't do much more than play games. So I wrote down some questions I had about Linux.

Will my ability to play games be significantly affected compared to Windows?

Can I mod games as freely and as easily as I do on Windows?

If a program has no Linux version, is it unusable, or are there workarounds?

Can Linux run programs that rely on frameworks like .NET or other Windows-specific libraries?

How do OS updates work in Linux? Is there a "Linux Update" program like what Windows has?

How does digital security work on Linux? Is it more vulnerable due to being open source? Is there integrated antivirus software, or will I have to source that myself?

Are GPU drivers reliable on Linux?

Can Linux (in the case of a misconfiguration or serious failure) potentially damage hardware?

And also, what distro might be best for me?

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[–] phantomwise@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

And also, what distro might be best for me?

  • For gaming and if you just want things to work without being bothered, Nobara. It's a Fedora base, which is good for gaming because you will have updates more quickly than other distros, but not so quick that you will get bad updates breaking stuff. It's Fedora but heavily modified for gaming, and has a lot of stuff already set up that you would need to do manually to improve gaming on another distro. It uses KDE as a Desktop Environment which is pretty good and similar-looking to Windows (a task bar on the bottom, a start menu, a system tray, etc) and you can customize it extensively.

How does digital security work on Linux? Is it more vulnerable due to being open source? Is there integrated antivirus software, or will I have to source that myself? Antiwhat ? Just kidding.

  • You're not installing softwares by running executables found on random websites, so you at least have less chances of accidentally installing malware that way (not saying that happened to me a lot on Windows... but not saying that it didn't 😅 ).
  • The best known antivirus on linux is clamAV, but it's command line only. It's not very complicated to use, but if you want a graphical interface there are several applications that are clamAV frontends (clamAV still does the actual scanning and such, but the application gives you a graphical interface to interact with it)

Will my ability to play games be significantly affected compared to Windows?

  • For Steam games, the Steam app has Proton, which enables you to play Windows games on Linux, and most will work just fine. There will always be a few games that require tinkering, or that won't work at all, but not many. You can check ProtonDB to see if your games run well with Proton (https://www.protondb.com/ ) and if a game won't run, you can check it to see if people have posted solutions (sometimes it's as easy as copy-pasting a command into the game's launch options, and poof, there goes the DirectX error !
  • For GoG games, and also games from other stores (EA, Epic, etc) you can install Lutris which will use Wine to make your non-Linux games work on linux. As will Proton, there will be a few games that won't cooperate. All in all, I'd say less than 5% of my games don't work or require tinkering, and I have a lot of them.
  • If you play multiplayer online games that use kernel-level anticheats, you might be fucked (though I'd argue that it's a good thing, because the game not working is much preferable to the security risk posed by kernel-level anticheats...). Some games are still playable without the anti-cheat activated, you just can't join competitive servers without the anticheat, while other games won't work at all.
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[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago

How do OS updates work in Linux? Is there a "Linux Update" program like what Windows has?

Package managers. Linux had this before Windows. Granted, Linux needed package managers, because of the myriad and complex dependency trees that software can have. I prefer to install software through a package manager because it not only takes care of dependencies for me, it will take care of updates, too. I will only install something downloaded from a website as an absolute last resort. (And then, of course, making sure it's a trustworthy source.)

How does digital security work on Linux?

It's rather complex, but you probably won't have to deal with it unless you have to do some kind of systems administration. On a day-to-day basis, the OS might ask you to enter your password to install software or make an update, and that's the extent of it.

Basically, every file has 3 categories of permissions: user, group, and others, and each category has 3 permissions: read, write, and execute. This is transparently handled by the system for you, though, and I can't even remember the last time I had to change permissions on a file. It's a good thing to be aware of if you have to do troubleshooting, though.

Is it more vulnerable due to being open source?

Just the opposite. Vulnerabilities get spotted sooner because there's more eyes on the code, and they're often patched quicker because anybody can submit a patch to an open-source project.

Is there integrated antivirus software, or will I have to source that myself?

I've never heard of any distro shipping with antivirus software, but I've also never heard of a Linux virus. Of course, I'm sure they exist, but I've just never heard of one. I've been using Linux for over two decades, and I've never used an antivirus or gotten a virus in all that time, and I've never even heard of a Linux user getting a virus. Part of that is due to Linux being more secure and part of that is due to Linux being less popular. If you're writing a virus, you aren't going to try to jump through the insane hoops of Linux security when you could target Windows which is A) less secure and B) has a fuckton more users.

Obviously, use common sense, don't install from untrusted sources, etc. etc., but viruses aren't the omnipresent threat on Linux like they are on Windows.

[–] 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago

.NET is not Windows specific

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago

I'm too tired to reply to everything but for those who didn't know the Nexus Mods App is pretty good already and is in its AppImage stage. Any of the games it supports are flawless imo

[–] Abnorc@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago

The nice thing about distro choice is that you don't really need to commit to one with them (mostly) being totally free. As long as you back up your files, I'd recommend trying a few until you feel comfortable. If you go with Ubuntu or Linux Mint I think you'll have the easiest time. I'd tentatively recommend dual-booting to give a new distro a try without fully committing, but that brings its own difficulties and troubleshooting with it. Having a second machine to test with is also great, but it's not a good option for everyone.

[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Your questions will have different answers depending on which flavour of Linux you choose.

A good chunk of windows programs can be run using a program called “WINE”. WINE is just a command line program but you can get a GUI version easily.

Updates depend on your flavour but Debian based Linux (like Ubuntu) you just type “sudo apt get update” and then “sudo apt get upgrade” and bam everything is updated. No restart required.

If a program doesn’t work in Linux there can be workarounds or alternatives but that really depends on what program you are talking about.

You can play almost every game that exists on steam on Linux with the exception of games that have kernel level anti cheat like some competitive multiplayer games.

You’re arguably safer security-wise on Linux. Most people are on windows so that’s the majority of all viruses. Your security updates are included in system updates. No antivirus required.

I have never heard of Linux damaging hardware. I don’t think you need to worry about this.

Recommendation: get Bazzite. It’s a special type of Linux that is closest to a windows experience than anything else. It won’t let you do dumb things and mess up your install. It has all NVIDIA drivers preinstalled as well as gamepad drivers and everything you’d need for gaming (including dock support). It’s a no configuration needed OS. Linux on easy mode. You don’t even need to use the command line ever. Updates and apps are installed through the Linux equivalent of the Microsoft App Store (except this time it is great and doesn’t suck). And I say this as someone who only used windows until 15 years ago I messed around with Ubuntu and other Debian based Linux distributions.

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I want to add 1 thing....graphics drivers have come a long way. Nvidia is a good example where some diatros come pre loaded to support Nvidia...like popOS. Check your vid card for distro compatibility

[–] KindaABigDyl@programming.dev 5 points 4 days ago

Will my ability to play games be significantly affected compared to Windows?

Really depends on the games. For the vast majority, probably not. If you play competitive multiplayer games, then it's 50/50.

Check out protondb to see if the games you play the most work well.

Also semi-depends on hardware. Old Nvidia cards may struggle. AMD is def king in the Linux world, but it's getting better for Nvidia

But as you are probably aware, the steam deck has been pretty successful. That wouldn't happen if Linux gaming was all bad.

Can I mod games as freely and as easily as I do on Windows?

Hit or miss. Sometimes the mod tools have to use wine and don't work. Sometimes they use wine and work. Sometimes they don't use wine and work.

I have just done some modding of Monster Hunter Wilds, and it was about 50/50

When it works, it's just as easy as Windows.

If a program has no Linux version, is it unusable, or are there workarounds?

WINE or a Virtual Machine

Can Linux run programs that rely on frameworks like .NET or other Windows-specific libraries?

.NET is cross platform as of several years ago.

How do OS updates work in Linux? Is there a “Linux Update” program like what Windows has?

It depends on the distro. Typically you just run a command in the terminal to "update all packages" or click a button in a store front.

It's way easier than on Windows and is never forced.

Genuinely one of if not the best thing about Linux is how software management works.

How does digital security work on Linux? Is it more vulnerable due to being open source? Is there integrated antivirus software, or will I have to source that myself?

Less vulnerable due to being open source. You have all the security experts in the world, including Microsoft's, able to view and fix any vulnerabilities as soon as they appear. Thousands of people getting their eyes on it.

There's a reason that Linux is the back bone of the internet and nearly every server runs it.

And FYI, you don't use antivirus on Linux.

Are GPU drivers reliable on Linux?

If it works, it will always work.

Whether it works is dependent on your GPU.

Like I said, AMD is basically perfect, Nvidia can have problems, but these days that's less and less true (I use a GTX 3080 w/ out issue).

Mostly if you have an old, less-supported nvidia card (like pre-GTX) you may have issues.

Can Linux (in the case of a misconfiguration or serious failure) potentially damage hardware?

I've never heard of something like that happening.

And also, what distro might be best for me?

For beginners the correct option is almost always Linux Mint

Can I mod games as freely and as easily as I do on Windows?

It depends a lot on the game, but in my experience not always. Running games straight from steam works really well with a small number of exceptions, but a lot of the sometimes weird tools for patching exe:s and so on that some games use can sometimes be a pain to get running. Not necessarily impossible but yeah this is a reason for why I still keep around my windows installation for dual booting.

[–] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 4 points 4 days ago

A few more thoughts here:

  • for a first Distribution, Ubuntu is fine, too. Also, you could ask people arounf you what they know best und whether they like to help you. For example, Debian is a bit harder to install but is rock solid once it runs.
  • if you are concerned about security, you should practice a strict separation between trusted software installed by you, and untrusted data presented to you via web, mail or Internet. Never run untrusted code. Windows blurs that line and this is fatal.
  • In respect to hardware support: Most standard PC hardware will work very well with Linux, even old scanners that have no more Windows driver support. NVidia is the bad exception, and the bad rap is still justified because of Wayland, the new graphics display server. If you are not really poor you might consider to buy something better. The hardware support landscape is different for laptops. Here, refurbished Lenovo Thinkpad or Dell laptops are first choice, and also best value for the money.
[–] arthur@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 days ago

Any change brings some pain, that's unavoidable, but it doesn't mean it will not be interesting as well.

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 5 points 4 days ago

As you can search the answer anywhere most games that don’t have kernel level anti cheat work.

Most programs can be run but not all.

[–] Fijxu@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago

Just as a note, NVIDIA on Linux is not bad, BUT IS REALLY ANNOYING because you will get some random bugs that are only exclusive to NVIDIA cards. Like this one: https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/non-existent-shared-vram-on-nvidia-linux-drivers/260304

If you have a low VRAM NVIDIA GPU and you want to play a modern game, you will have a bad time. (However, AMD and Intel should work just fine lolol)

[–] proceduralnightshade@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago

Just an addition to all the long comments already here:

There are some games that don't work on Linux, mainly big corpo multiplayer titles. https://areweanticheatyet.com/

Windows 10 LTSC IoT might help. (This gets recommended a lot on lemmy I noticed) : https://massgrave.dev/windows_ltsc_links

It's not forbidden to set up dual-boot. I would recommend using Linux as your main OS though.

[–] _____@lemm.ee 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

All your concerns are valid and Linux handles all these well except:

If you play competitive games with kernel anti cheat it will simply not work on Linux courtesy of the game developers.

Linux is fully capable of running the game and the anti cheat but the game developers restrict it. Notable games are cod, fortnite, apex legends.

A notable competitive game that works on Linux is cs2 although you won't be able to run 3rd party anti cheat like FACEIT as far as I know.

You can use the proton site to tell you how many of your games on your steam library are playable on Linux.

I'm on my 8th month or so using Linux to game and I've had no issues, most popular games will work. Most niche games use very simple tech like SDL and will just work.

Wine essentially creates a fake windows environment and handles a lot of internal API calls by kind of redirecting them to existing Linux services, so a lot of windows stuff will just work.

As for security. You realize most of the Internet runs on Linux ? Practically the majority of the internet is hosted on Linux machines.

As for a distrto there is no optimal choice you can make.

You can pick Ubuntu, Debian or Mint and find yourself disappointed in how restricting the power user experience is.

You can pick arch or cachy for the latest wine improvements but find yourself lost in how to handle the OS in case something goes wrong.

I personally think cachy (rolling release) is the best for gaming but you could encounter issues (skill issues really) that might frustrate you. These issues would lead to growth and improvement in your understanding of Linux but if all you want to do is game and you don't care about understanding computers then it might not be for you.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Will my ability to play games be significantly affected compared to Windows?

So far, my experience on this depends on your graphics card. If you're using AMD, you shouldn't be too significantly impacted. If you're using Nvidia, god help you. In my experience trying to get games running on Linux with an older Nvidia card, you'll have a lot more fun bashing your head into a wall until the wall breaks.

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[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Can Linux run programs that rely on frameworks like .NET or other Windows-specific libraries?

Isn't .NET open source and cross platform now? Isn't there an official Linux runtime? Or is it just the most basic subset of .NET without any of the GUI libraries or other things Windows .NET apps routinely depend on?

[–] mdk_@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

There are differences. Most modern apps use .NET Core, which in itself is cross platform. Most of the time, they use a UI framework that is be cross platform as well (AvaloniaUI).

Of course newer apps and older apps made with .Net-Framework that may use Windows specific libraries (eg. System.Windows.Forms, System.Drawing) and lose their cross platform compatibility. They might work with Wine.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Will my ability to play games be significantly affected compared to Windows?

Depends on the games you play. Because of things like DOSBOX and Wine, it is sometimes easier to get DOS and early Windows games running on Linux than it is Windows. Valve's Proton compatibility layer allows games written for Windows to Just Work^TM^ on Linux. My diet of nerdy factory building games and indie titles works perfectly well in Linux, my cousin who plays Bethesda and EA games ran into more irritations. The major compatibility barrier is competitive online multiplayer and anti-cheat systems. Many developers intentionally exclude Linux compatibility. The game runs fine, but you'll get banned for doing it.

Can I mod games as freely and as easily as I do on Windows?

Probably, depends on the game. I didn't have much of a problem modding Kerbal Space Program or Satisfactory, the communities offered mod managers that worked perfectly well.

If a program has no Linux version, is it unusable, or are there workarounds?

My suggestion would be to go full native if you can. Like, Adobe Photoshop isn't available on Linux, so instead of trying to make it work, give GIMP or Krita or one of several others a try. Increasingly, things like Slack are Electron apps, which basically run as a glorified web browser, so they're fairly easy to port to Linux and it's becoming increasingly typical to upload them to Flathub.

Can Linux run programs that rely on frameworks like .NET or other Windows-specific libraries?

Yes, through a compatibility program called Wine, which I've already mentioned. Though again I would recommend going for native applications than trying to use Windows software on Linux.

How do OS updates work in Linux? Is there a “Linux Update” program like what Windows has?

Short answer: Better than Windows does.

Different Linux distros will handle this slightly differently, but generally speaking your system will come with a thing called a package manager. It's basically an app store but everything in there is free. The package manager handles updates for the OS itself as well as the software you've installed, up to and including updating to the next version of the OS if applicable. In fact as I write this, my computer is asking if I want to upgrade to Fedora 42.

It's also not as onerous as Windows updates; most of the time it'll update software, you can use the rest of the system while that's happening, and it'll finish and it's fine. Sometimes it'll say "must restart computer for changes to take effect" but it won't force or nag you to do that. You can come to a stopping point in your work, then do a normal restart. None of that "Updating your computer 1 of 7..." it just does a normal boot in a normal amount of time.

How does digital security work on Linux? Is it more vulnerable due to being open source? Is there integrated antivirus software, or will I have to source that myself?

Linux has a system of permissions, a bit like how Windows will sometimes ask you to run things as Administrator. Linux has had that concept longer than Windows has, Linux will call it the Root or SuperUser.

Increasingly, sandboxed applications that run essentially in their own virtual machines are being used to limit what an application can access. Flatpak has a system of permissions not unlike Android, where you can say "No this app doesn't need camera access."

We get a lot of security from having a package manager we actually use. Linux users aren't in the habit of downloading random .exes from all over the internet. Software in the repos is vetted and signed. Don't run code you don't trust.

Few Linux systems come with built-in antivirus software. Conventional wisdom is it isn't needed. Antivirus software does exist for Linux, but it's often to detect Windows malware in server traffic. For an end user desktop it's not necessary.

Are GPU drivers reliable on Linux?

AMD publishes their drivers directly to the Linux kernel. My 7900GRE Just Works^TM^. Nvidia tends to be a bit more of a pain in the neck. Your system will likely come with the open source Nouveau drivers, which will run but possibly not very well, and you'll need to install proprietary drivers, which...the method you go about doing that varies from system to system.

Now, I had a hell of a time with the hybrid graphics on my laptop, but I think that's another story.

Oh, yet another story: on my GTX-1080 in my previous computer, I started to have an issue with a new monitor I bought. Turns out the card needed a firmware update or it wouldn't let the computer boot with a late model DisplayPort monitor attached. Not a driver update, a firmware update. Nvidia does not publish the tool to do that for use in Linux, so I ended up taking the GPU out and borrowing a Windows computer.

Can Linux (in the case of a misconfiguration or serious failure) potentially damage hardware?

I think I could use dd to wear out an NVMe SSD via excessive writing. But basically no. You're not going to flip a switch in a settings menu and hear a bang from your case.

And also, what distro might be best for me?

I would recommend trying several. A few of my favorites over the years have been Mint Cinnamon, Fedora KDE and Ubuntu Mate.

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[–] RecipeForHate1@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago

Will my ability to play games be significantly affected compared to Windows?

Yes, there are way fewer games than on Windows, but support has been growing in the last few years

Can I mod games as freely and as easily as I do on Windows?

If the tools you use are available for Linux, then no problem

If a program has no Linux version, is it unusable, or are there workarounds?

You can use WINE (Wine Is Not an Emulator) to run some Windows apps. You can check compatibility here: https://appdb.winehq.org/

Can Linux run programs that rely on frameworks like .NET or other Windows-specific libraries?

.NET (Core and newer versions) is fully supported on Linux. Other Windows-specific libraries might be a problem unless they work through Wine

How do OS updates work in Linux? Is there a “Linux Update” program like what Windows has?

Yes, most desktop environments have a graphical interface for settings and updates

How does digital security work on Linux? Is it more vulnerable due to being open source? Is there integrated antivirus software, or will I have to source that myself?

It's actually the opposite. Since the code is open, more people are checking for vulnerabilities, making it more secure than proprietary systems. In general, Linux users don’t need antivirus, as most malware targets Windows or macOS, and Linux malware usually needs privilege escalation

Are GPU drivers reliable on Linux?

That’s debatable. Everyone has different experiences depending on their hardware and distro

Can Linux (in the case of a misconfiguration or serious failure) potentially damage hardware?

Nope

And also, what distro might be best for me?

Since you have a gamer profile, I'd suggest Pop!_OS (https://system76.com/pop/). It's based on Ubuntu and has good support for gaming and creative work

[–] Geodad@lemm.ee 4 points 4 days ago

#1 was true more in the late 90s to early 00s. The operating system has matured quite a bit since then.

I love Debian, but I hear a lot of people suggesting Linux Mint for new users. If you're afraid of committing to a change, grab a cheap used system to try it out. Just know that if you have better hardware, itbwill really shine.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 1 points 3 days ago

+1 for Fedora. I recommend Kinoite as it is very similar to windows and very hard to break due to it's "immutability".

Bazzite is very similar to Fedora Kinoite but made to be easy for gaming.

[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (64 children)

Note here, a lot of people are going to recommend you mint, I honestly think mint is an outdated suggestion for beginners, I think immutability is extremely important for someone who is just starting out, as well as starting on KDE since it’s by far the most developed DE that isn’t gnome and their… design decisions are unfortunate for people coming from windows.

I don’t think we should be recommending mint to beginners anymore, if mint makes an immutable, up to date KDE distro, that’ll change, but until then, I think bazzite is objectively a better starting place for beginners.

The mere fact that bazzite and other immutables generate a new system for you on update and let you switch between and rollback automatically is enough for me to say it’s better, but it also has more up to date software, and tons of guides (fedora is one of the most popular distros, and bazzite is essentially identical except with some QoL upgrades).

How common is the story of “I was new to linux and completely broke it”? that’s not a good user experience for someone who’s just starting, it’s intimidating, scary, and I just don’t think it’s the best in the modern era. There’s something to be said about learning from these mistakes, but bazzite essentially makes these mistakes impossible.

Furthermore because of the way bazzite works, package management is completely graphical and requires essentially no intervention on the users part, flathub and immutability pair excellently for this reason.

Cinnamon (the default mint environment) doesn’t and won’t support HDR, the security/performance improvements from wayland, mixed refresh rate displays, mixed DPI displays, fractional scaling, and many other things for a very very long time if at all. I don’t understand the usecase for cinnamon tbh, xfce is great if you need performance but don’t want to make major sacrifices, lxqt is great if you need A LOT of performance, cinnamon isn’t particularly performant and just a strictly worse version of kde in my eyes from the perspective of a beginner, anyway.

I have 15 years of linux experience and am willing to infinitely troubleshoot if you add me on matrix.

[–] Nyadia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 days ago

As someone who switched from Windows to Linux Mint about a year ago and had a pretty easy time adapting, sometimes I see the advice that beginners should use an immutable distro instead of Mint and am inclined to disagree, but then I remember the Linux Mint subreddit has like, at least one person a week who somehow manages to accidentally install the GNOME desktop and makes a post like "Wtf I started up my computer and it looks weird now why does it look like this" lol

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