40 old me looking at a screen with SSMS and Azure: Instead of an engineer like my father I should have been a tailor like my mom... Or a carpenter...
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It's never too late to enter carpentry. I know quite a few programmers who do carpentry as their main hobby. Something about the math and the amount of careful planning is highly transferrable, I guess.
Whenever I try building something with wood, I get so frustrated that it's not version controlled. In software, I can fearlessly try dumb stuff because I can just roll it back if it didn't work.
3D printing and CAD may be the hobby for you then!
Creating anything physical requires a lot of practice, and practice really only works if you make mistakes and then learn from them.
Just have to accept that you will waste a lot of wood getting that practice. Heck, a lot of woodworking practice is repetition of the basics before trying to make something with those skills. Otherwise you end up with a bunch of hobbled together ugly stuff that still works like my stuff.
Not catching very slight warping in boards is my weakness.
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Assuming you can afford all the stuff to do it.
Which most software engineers can
Nah fuck carpentry. You’ll just end up destroying your body to make shit money.
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Don't be a carpenter. Splinters.
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proof that capitalism kills people. And everyone has a price.
They forgot the whole genocide thing which is kinda necessary for this to work out
This is why we colonise space, at least the planets without aliens living there.
Almost every colony ever: gets oppressed and exploited, fights for independence, gains sovereignty, becomes either a tense ally or a hostile rival to their former empire
Earthlings: "maybe we should colonize space"
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Also the whole industrialization, privatization, and rise of capitalism thing in Europe that led to successive waves of emigrants leaving or being coerced from their homelands. I think in general people don’t leave their communities and families without some kind of direct or indirect violence.
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I live in the country.
It's never peace and quiet. It's constantly filled with the noise of shitty neighbors blasting music at full volume cause they don't understand that sound travels. Then there are the gunshots every damn morning from dipshit shooting in their field. I'm constantly worried one day a missed shot is gonna come through my window.
Let's not even get started on when they brun the fucking fields (sugar cane) and the entire area is covered is astringent smoke and ash.
Living in town, people understood that neighbors exist and at least attempted to be considerate about it; plus, I never had to worry about catching strays. Also, life was so much nicer, not needing to fucking drive everywhere just to do basic things or go get something to eat. Being able to walk or catch a bus was so much more convenient and stress-free than needing to drive myself. I was able to have a lot more free time since I wasn't spending it on an overlong commute just to get anything done.
A decade ago my wife and I quit our jobs packed our kids and stuff and moved 7000kms to our now rural homestead. Our closest neighbor is 2km away. Town and groceries is a half hour drive one way. We have a huge garden and laying hens. We raise our own chickens for meat as well as quail and rabbits. Our kids hunt and fish and play outside. Like we did when we were kids.
It's fucking amazing y'all.
Our closest neighbor is 2km away.
ahhhhhhhhhhhhh that sounds great
A 30min drive to town is perfect. That sounds incredible.
If I'm any more than a 15 minute walk to my nearest grocer I consider it hell. Fuck needing to pay insurance, maintenance, and gas costs just to be able to perform basic chores.
Needing to waste an hour just to get groceries sounds so dumb.
The point is they don't need to go into town often. They have everything they need on their land. Different people prioritize different things and have different wants.
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If you weren't rich you couldn't benefit much from "most advanced civilization" at the time. most of the them were really poor and desperate and gave everything just for ticket across the Atlantic with the hope for a better life.
The thing that I hate even more about all this, I could afford to do this. But you are not legally allowed to live on your own land in the UK without planning permission. I think it is vaguely comparable to zoning in the US.
We still have parts where you can disappear into the woods and just sort of fuck off forever. Alaska has the Remote Recreational Cabin Site program as a replacement for the Homestead Act and there's parts of the state so remote you could essentially do whatever you want and nobody would ever know. Provided "whatever you want" involves freezing in the dark wilderness.
I'm sure some of our other low-density states have similar things going on, and zoning laws vary wildly.
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Thats what i love about Canada, you can buy land in unorganized townships and can do whatever you want there. The interesting wildlife is just the icing on the cake.
I live about 15 miles outside of a small town (~20k) in a trailer park on the side of a mountain. Been here 6 months and it is AMAZING. Super quiet at night, can see the stars and it has a great view of the adjacent mountains nearby.
It'll most likely be awhile, but the plan is to save for a small piece of property with a similar rural location. In my teens and twenties, I used to think that I'd live in the big city, but as I got into my late 30s I couldn't stand being in the city much. I don't mind being able to visit occasionally, but city life just isn't for me anymore. Too big, busy and noisy. Give me a nice, peaceful spot where I can read and enjoy nature quietly.
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I have been working for many years to find the right balance for me.
Currently, by day I am a software engineer, but in my off time I am basically a recreational farmer — as in keeper of animals, not gardening. Though, plants are often involved in service of the animals.
I live in suburbia and am pretty ideally located as far as local resources and infrastructure. So I brought a little bit of the wilderness to me. Currently spending a bunch of time on my koi pond.
This is something I will never understand. You want all of the trappings of civilization without being part of it? You want your cake and to eat it too.
Right? That kind of mentality is just selfish. It shows that someone doesn't know how to live with others and wants to make that everyone else's problem.
Lol if you want to go live outside of civilization then go ahead; just don't expect things like electricity, roads, and running water unless you can build it yourself. Facilitating all these antisocial people living out in bumbfuck is a massive drain on resources and fucks things up for the rest of us.
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50 y/o: get the fuck out of my cave.
Then you start talking about colonizing space and people flip the fuck out
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Unfortunately we’re living in a world that no longer has much unowned/unsettled land. Everything has been bought and hoarded by the ultra wealthy.
that was already true in 1492.
the land wasn’t "unsettled" before the colonizers arrived.
Well yes, but obviously there was some point in history where that wasn’t true. You just need to look back further than modern history.
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If thats what you think happened, then you dont get it. readsettlers.org
I would love to move to some US state with lots of forested country and go build a cute little homestead. Work part time to buy things I need.
Mmm...my dream. Also BTW I'm in my early 20's.
Canada has huge tracts of land in the Canadian wilderness.
get a gun though. the neighbors can be a real bear.
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Didn't the Puritans leave England because they really hated the Catholics and wanted to change the Church of England to not be as Catholic but the government of the day told them to fuck off?
Also they hated taxes. Basically libertarians with a different name.
The Puritans weren't the only or even primary colonists, but yes that was their motivation. That and their barbaric faith practices were quite literally illegal.. in medieval England of all places. Children weren't even considered people yet but how the Puritans treated them was bad enough to be made illegal.
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Its always a good idea to consult your local fat checker to verify these claims.
Me, Local Fact Checker (who is also very tired and lazy): "seems fine"
my fat is prettyy high, sadly, although these lads had higher fats
And this is why you have car-centric infrastructure and suburbia.
Pretty sure that's a post 1900 invention. Trains were the hot stuff in the 1800s
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