Shit take. Do better
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The current PM where I work:
- cannot figure out audio settings for teams
- cannot understand microphone feedback loops
- cannot ask you your status on a task without giving just enough time for you to think it's your turn to speak only to then start speaking again the moment you start explaining your status
- cannot understand that an explanation for the status of a task can apply to multiple similar tasks
- always second guesses decisions
Their only actual job as far as I can tell is to tell the suits what they want to hear in their fucked up little business language. But I haven't seen that, so maybe they're terrible at that as well.
It feels like they memorized and religiously practice the CIA's handbook for field sabotage.
Everytime project managers come up the threads are full of people say BUTTTTT THE GOOOOODDD ONES!!!!!
My experience is exactly like yours. They only exist because most executives are so detached from the realities of the business they require a full time person to turn their platitudes into something resembling reality.
If you are an engineer and you cant schedule a meeting or ping someone on slack, just get another job. We dont need to invent another soulless mindnumbing and pointless profession because you are too lazy to use a kanban board.
If you are an executive or leadership and you can't communicate with your team even though the primary role of executives is communicating plans, then maybe leadership isn't for you.
Its that simple. We could end the suffering of millions if not billions of people by outlawing 3 careers. Project managers, sales, and marketing. Pulling off the bandaid will hurt, but humanity will be better for it.
You say that until the first time you join a team with multiple projects to accomplish and zero project or program management. It sucks. Badly.
I pine for very excellent PMs I’ve known.
I had a manager once with a powerful knack for hiring great ones. The only problem was that each and every one of them got poached for upper management in the business.
Fixed it.
how?
Now it fills vertical screens completely!
I don't like you.
fds = fuhhh daehhh shihhh = don’t do it
project managers (or any types of managers/admins) who are forces of nature can really drive things forward. this person talks about the useless kind of manager which often tries to interject him/her self in everything slowing things down. They act like this mostly because otherwise they would be useless as that is their only skill and they got the position through mix of luck and network.
A good PM will herd all the cats and attend all the meetings you don't want to. They're worth their weight in gold.
A bad PM will do none of the above and constantly drag you in to fight their fires. They're worth their weight in, well, you know.
Note I've seen the "protecting me from a meeting" backfire so hard.
One time for lack of headcount I did a bit of double duty as project manager including executive meetings. Then management found a project manager and instead of knocking out my part of those meetings in like 5 minutes, I suddenly had generally hour long prep meetings so my new project manager would be confident enough to engage in whatever random topic the execs tended to go into. After a quarter they demanded I swap back in to do the meetings instead, which I was happy to do.
Also, those meetings are my best chance to cut through some confusion so I don't end up with a mess of crap in the tracker.
As a PM who tries to not waste anyone's time, thank you. I've had pushback before from people who don't like to do the talking, but I would only call that person forward if it's going to prevent a ton of headaches all around. Sometimes it's difficult to explain that. Otherwise I have no problem being the punching bag on stage. It's my job.
I’ve literally always described my job as babysitting
I need to be babysat, otherwise, how do I know what to do? And trust me, you do not want me working on whatever I just find interesting.
I like 'herding cats', but babysitting is quite accurate.
The person posting this is the type why pm are a thing