On the other hand having a manager willing to yell at/stonewall the MBAs when they ~~deliberately lie about~~ misinterpret your recommendations and timelines is a godsend.
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Spoken like a vibe coder
ITT: People who don't know the difference between product, program, and project managers.
As a software guy, I love this. People building and running software products don't need project managers. We ned product owners/managers. It's a product, it has users, it doesn't have an end date.
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that's not useless, that's actively harmful
This fairy tale still lives? Sheesh, some people really are dense. Like, neutron star kind of dense
Management is needed, you let ppl do whtever they want and nothing gets done in any reasonable amount of time
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I fucking hate comments defending PMs like “you hate PMs if you only worked with bad ones”
Fuck no, they’re the idea guys of tech, they’re useless. Their entire existence depends on engineers not giving enough fucks about the product. They’re the result of a broken team structure. They’re annoying and have no real skills, which is proven by their excitement about AI nowadays. Every PM I’ve came across is hyping up AI, most of them vibe coding, whatever the fuck that means.
The person posting this is the type why pm are a thing