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Government shutdown looms as Congress returns after monthlong August recess (apnews.com)

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Congressional Republicans scored a massive victory this summer when they passed President Donald Trump’s “big beautiful bill” of tax and spending cuts without a single Democratic vote. But as they return to Washington this fall after a monthlong August recess, they will have to find a way to work with Democrats — or around them — as a government shutdown looms.

The annual spending battle will dominate the September agenda, along with a possible effort by Senate Republicans to change their chamber’s rules to thwart Democratic stalling tactics on nominations. The Senate is also debating whether to move forward on legislation that would slap steep tariffs on some of Russia’s trading partners as the U.S. pressures Russian President Vladimir Putin on Ukraine.

In the House, Republicans will continue their investigations of former President Joe Biden while Speaker Mike Johnson navigates a split in his conference over whether the Trump administration should release more files in the Jeffrey Epstein investigation.

A look at what Congress will be doing as lawmakers return from the August break:

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 71 points 1 month ago

A reminder of where we left of in the previous season of the POS Christofascist series.

Republicans Shut Down House Floor to Avoid Epstein Vote

Committee Democrats had planned to force a vote that night on a resolution calling for the public release of Epstein-related documents. The move came as the panel was preparing unrelated bills for House floor consideration.

But rather than work through the disruption, Republicans chose to shut things down entirely. House Majority Leader Steve Scalise said it was "unlikely" the committee would reconvene this week at all. Lawmakers later confirmed there were no plans to return—meaning the House will likely head into August recess without voting on several bills that cannot pass under expedited rules, including a GOP-backed immigration measure and a water-permitting bill.

https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-jeffrey-epstein-house-vote-2102137

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 70 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Pleaseeeee shut it down

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 62 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Schumer is going to make sure whatever the Republicans decide to put in a bill gets passed to prevent a shutdown. He works for New York billionaires who would lose money over a shutdown.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 47 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I hate to be so flippantly cruel but I honestly hope Schumer will kick the bucket almost as much as I hope Trump does. All these fucking dinosaurs who represent people they made up in their mind need to fucking GO. (This isn't a joke, Schumer has literally made up fake people he assumes represents his constituents because he doesn't give one flying fuck about real people.)

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 month ago

That's not even cruel in the grand scheme of things.

Schumer is simultaneously a lackey to robber barons and a petty tyrant so entrenched that he's unlikely to be removed from power by any other means.

Given that, wishing for his death is wishing for the world to improve.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

schumer is worth around 81million, he has a vested interest in staying rich, and also kow-toe-ing AIPAC/israeli sentiment.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago

Yes.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You mean noted Donald Trump Ally Chuck schumer?

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago

Yes, the very same.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Schumer is going to make sure whatever the Republicans decide to put in a bill gets passed to ~~prevent a shutdown~~ facilitate owner donor profiteering

Fixed it for you.

He works for New York billionaires who would lose money over a shutdown.

100%

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago

In theory if the choice was between taxing the rich for all their money and and shutting down the government then sure. But this is a Republican controlled government with a Democrat compliance party. Preventing a shutdown and facilitating owner donor profiteering are overlapping circles in a Venn diagram for this Congress.

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

he may still allow a token 24-48hr shutdown for appearances. -Not enough to have any real effect.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Schumer didn't the last time this happened this year, so it seems unlikely. Even that length could cost his donors money and they want all the money now. Long term calculations are a failure to maximize profits in the immediate now that billionaires currently exist in as opposed to later which they hope to exist in apocalypse bunkers. edit: typos

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And never reopen

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago

A socialist government would be cool.

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[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago

And where are the Epstein files GOP?!? Trump was business partners with Epstein and laundered millions of dollars for him.

What about all the suspicious bank transactions we have proof of? Release them all.

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

Release the Epstein files unredacted.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is your reminder that the whole "have to make a deal or the whole thing shuts down" is an unconstitutional rule introduced by Republican demagogues in an attempt to sabotage Obama.

They don't have to keep doing this and it goes directly against both the spirit and text of the very document they pretend to revere with religious fervor.

That goes for BOTH of the major parties. Mostly the one who came up with it in the first place and is currently in the majority, of course, but the Dems are pretending that there's nothing inherently wrong with it as well.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We need to meaningfully standing up to the fascists. The government shutdown is the only leverage Democrats have. The fascists are going to try to kill us all whether we stand up to them or not. There's no world where we will wait this out until the fascists are gone.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

We need to meaningfully standing up to the fascists

Couldn't agree more.

The government shutdown is the only leverage Democrats have

Couldn't disagree more.

The fascists are going to try to kill us all whether we stand up to them or not

Absolutely.

There's no world where we will wait this out until the fascists are gone.

Correct. There's also no world where a government shutdown is a good thing.

Democrats have tools at their disposal to gum up the machine and sway public opinion until they find a way to avert a shutdown without greenlighting something even worse. Using those tools is one of the most important parts of their job.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

What are these “tools” you speak of? Be specific. Because public opinion doesn’t count for shit to the Republicans.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago

Couldn’t agree more.

Couldn’t disagree more.

You're doing the Patrick Star and Man Ray meme to me right now.

Correct. There’s also no world where a government shutdown is a good thing.

There is in a world where a person says 'Absolutely' to:

The fascists are going to try to kill us all whether we stand up to them or not

Absolutely.

These are mutually exclusive positions given what we are discussing. Your argument at the same time acknowledging that the fascists present the same danger regardless of our level of resistance and yet arguing that there is some how more danger if we resist. You're argument contains a glaring logical fallacy and thus is not compelling in any capacity. Your argument is a logically invalid position for this discussion.

Does your room contain any windows?

Democrats have tools at their disposal to gum up the machine and sway public opinion until they find a way to avert a shutdown without greenlighting something even worse. Using those tools is one of the most important parts of their job.

Incorrect. Passing legislation in the US requires control of both houses of Congress and the executive branch or two-thirds of both houses of Congress. There are no other meaningful tools besides a government shutdown to gum up the works. And people are sick of performative action from the Democrats.

Full stop. You aren't making sense. So I'm left with either you're trolling me and the rest of us for fun or you're suffering from carbon monoxide poisoning. For the sake of giving you the benefit of the doubt and your health I'm going to assume it's the latter, so the carbon monoxide poisoning.

[–] EndOfLine@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Anybody else remember when the likelihood of an imminent government shutdown wasn't the standard operating procedure?

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Honestly? No.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

This is your reminder that we are in a make a deal or shut down situation because of how the Constitution requires the Democrats to have a majority of votes to do anything. Which in theory is how things should work in a majority rule democracy. edit: typo

Without the shutdown Democrats wouldn't have any leverage right now. Which isn't great, but is better than nothing for fighting fascism. It would have been better if Democrats had been socialists from the get go and gotten rid of the debt ceiling when they had power but they weren't and they didn't.

If you have a third option please share it. And make sure you're getting fresh air in your building.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Without the shutdown Democrats wouldn’t have any leverage right now. Which isn’t great, but is better than nothing for fighting fascism.

They'll cave like they did 6 months ago.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No shit. Look at what is being argued in this comment section. We need the Democrats to shutdown the government. A user is determined to push a third option instead that the user cannot list. The last thing we need is for people to assume there is a third option when we don't have one. edit: typos

[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

They don't though. They want it shut down, they just don't want to be blamed for it.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

This is your reminder that we in a make or deal or shut it down situation because of how Democratic politicians bring a paper napkin to a gunfight and don’t understand basic game theory. That, or they’re simply just captive opposition at this point.

I simply don’t trust them to do anything useful to stop the fascists. With a handful of exceptions, they’re all performative imbeciles with a dismaying lack of character, fortitude, creativity, and will.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I know that. Read the comment section. There is a user arguing against shutting down the government on the basis of a third option that the user cannot give in any detail. We need to be pushing the Democrats for a shutdown because they will not do it on their own. The last thing we need is to give Democrats an out when we do not have a third option.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 1 month ago

Keep in mind that a shutdown just enables trump to eliminate departments and get rid of people easier. shutdown was a problem for when democrats were in power because they look to have functional government. trump just wants to have a reason to declare martial law and in no way wants a functioning government. A shutdown is not a threat for them.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

That, or they’re simply just captive opposition at this point.

It's this one. Not everyone in the party, but the party as a whole

[–] simsalabim@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The US became a literal banana republic.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

i thought that was back when dole took over our foreign policy, but yeah

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Yeah I better contact my representative and let them know to shut it down or risk losing midterms.

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[–] jesonwu3@piefed.social 10 points 1 month ago

Pleaseeeee shut it down

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

rhetorical question i know the answer i just want to point out how amusing and depressing it is that whenever republicans are in charge of statesia, they can't keep the damn thing running

[–] humanoidchaos@lemmy.cif.su 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How the fuck do they get a month off?

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 6 points 1 month ago

Because they make their own rules.

[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Time to vote all these idiots out. If they don't respond to your calls and emails, or send you some BS Trump-esc response, VOTE THEM OUT. These people in congress are way too comfortable, work very little, and are all wealthy. It's about time the people have a say in what happens in this country.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

REPUBLICANS CAN'T GOVERN AND NEVER HAVE BEEN ABLE TO

Every time in my lifetime that Republicans have had control, the economy has eaten shit. Every time they've been in control stress levels have increased. Every time they've been in control they've abused their power. Every time they've been in control they threaten American's rights. Most of the regions of our country that have been under long term Republican control have higher rates of crime per capita and lower educational standards.

American's number 1 priority should be preventing Republicans from having power. I don't care how much you don't like Democrats. They're fucking angels in comparison. It isn't about liking Democrats. It's about keeping a treasonous, low IQ party from controlling our futures and threatening our rights.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Chuck Schumer could have made a stand months ago but he made it clear that’s not his “number one job”

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