chapotraphouse

Is it bad that I find this somewhat comforting on a personal level?

I'm half-considering continuing my education mostly to get the STEM degree porky wants, but I worry I'm too stupid for it or won't be able to figure everything out before the test so even if I pass I won't be getting the As, the bare minimum to even have my job applications considered. But if so many people are cheating, then I'm not as inferior as I may think.

i stopped caring about "academic integrity" when i noticed not only were the TAs using LLMs to make assignments, but somehow my homework load went from 10-20 hours a week to 40-60 hours a week because not only the TA did not understood how much work a question takes anymore, but that now every coding assignment was loaded down with mandatory bullshit reports where you have to explain your code line by line and parameter by parameter.

when you tell people for at least a decade that college degrees are useless, grades are useless, the things they teach you are useless and the only thing higher education is good for is networking and social life, don't be surprised when people start focusing on those areas.

I ain't gonna read all that but some quotes are hilarious

When I asked him why he had gone through so much trouble to get to an Ivy League university only to off-load all of the learning to a robot, he said, “It’s the best place to meet your co-founder and your wife.”

Lee explained to me that by showing the world AI could be used to cheat during a remote job interview, he had pushed the tech industry to evolve the same way AI was forcing higher education to evolve.

AI frontiersman pushing the envelope of technology by building the torment nexus

Something that is very annoying is that AI is being blamed for the problems that education under capitalism has been facing for decades. Poor reading comprehension has been an issue for decades. We have a system that not only teaches people to hate learning, but where everyone is too tired and time poor to learn, or even teach.

Fuck AI, but don't use technology as a scapegoat for systemic problems, it only amplifies what is already there.

Sorry to the teachers. But this is what the US deserves. Just an ouroboros of credential-seeking first-worlder faillchildren future-labor-aristocrats shooting their own brains out until every person working in a technical field in the US is a Russian immigrant.

Let the people defunding education reap what they sow. They'll keep their complacent and uncurious population, but it might have side-effects!

my friend described it as a logical endpoint of the commodification of education, which i think i agree with. degree being seen as simply a visa to the corporate world has been a problem since long before AI proliferation. of course students don't care and just want the piece of paper. the great failing of contemporary liberal education is that it totally fails to instil a love of learning (and often actually instils a dislike of it). undergrads are treated so poorly by institutions it's no surprise most of them usually end up in the mindset of "do as little work as possible, fuck this awful system".

Yeah, you can’t give students a done-at-home essay as an assessment any longer, that’s just asking for AI slop and setting the students up for failure. Students can’t be trusted to avoid the temptation of AI, even the good ones from time to time. Over the past couple of years I’ve had to completely rethink every assessment I give. Essays are useless now. In-class tests and exams are ok, but students struggle with these more than they did a few years ago as they are less practiced at thinking through the written word. In-class presentations work pretty well, if you have a few restrictions. Keeping the time limits short so they stay focused and do not use vague and verbose AI writing helps, limiting the amount of text in slides or number or slides or even just banning slides entirely can also help to reduce slop. But most importantly, have a lengthy question and answer period at the end. This is where the students will actually demonstrate their own understanding as they need to actually know the material themselves to get through even very simple questions. If a student only used AI to write a presentation script even “what did you think about the book?” is a tough question for them. Usually one of the students will try using AI but will very visibly crash and burn in front of the whole class during the Q&A. The public shaming that results usually serves as a good warning to the rest.

critical support to LLMs in the war on pointless bullshit homework

we can’t really imagine living without it.

It's been like a year or 2 of this shit being this accessible. Like common, Wtf.

I have a hypothesis that college can solve this problem by "inversing" lectures and homework.

edit: sounds like a lot of places do this already so that's cool.

Have your students watch lectures and do reading on their own time. Hell, they can ask ChatGPT to summarize it for them if "it's just a tool" and they want to use it! But everything that gets a grade should be done in class. You will write the essay by hand, you will do the math with no more powerful a calculator than a TI-83, you will give a presentation to show that you understand the material. Book is open, accommodations for special needs are available, and the teacher is here to help and give guidance and clarification, but internet connections are banned.

Buuuuut ~~American colleges would never do this because~~ ensuring that your graduates actually learn things was never the point.

I think it was on this machine kills, but they talked about the rise of AI use is correlated to the fall of computer literacy. Specifically with big tech rise causing less visibility in how the products we use work and more reliance on ease of use. I think they talked about kids not even knowing how file systems work since everything is an app.

This can be solved when we bring back torrents