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The U.S. military has killed at least 21 people in recent strikes on small boats off the coast of Venezuela — attacks President Donald Trump says are part of an "armed conflict" with drug cartels. But according to data and experts cited by The New York Times, the operation is unlikely to significantly disrupt the flow of cocaine or fentanyl into the United States, since Venezuela plays only a marginal role in the global drug trade.

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[–] Ilixtze@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Bomb striking fisherman won't stop the drug the drug flow. I am glad we asked the experts for that obvious assessment. How much money does it take to run those military ships? How much taxpayer money is being wasted in that useless sabre rattling?

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

Not to mention that it is about 2000 miles by sea from Venezuela to the US and there is no fucking way a speed boat has large enough fuel tanks for that. It's a blatant lie that these boats are headed for US ports.

[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 23 points 1 week ago

*alleged drug boats, that more than likely were not carrying drugs at all

[–] RFKJrsBrainworm@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 week ago

No shit... letting Miller and drunk Seth bomb random fishing boats isn't stopping shit

[–] homoludens@feddit.org 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's not about curbing the drug flow. It's about invalidating the rule of law (and normalizing killing people).

[–] lowleekun@ani.social 9 points 1 week ago

And preparing new avenues for war. The machine needs some places to drop bombs and the killing ground in Gaza was closed due to public outrage (stoopid people simply not buying all the expensive propaganda smh).

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 1 week ago
[–] Bridger@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The us law enforcement machine has never wanted to stop the flow of drugs to the USA. What they want to do is profit from it.

[–] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

America has one of the largest drug economies in the world. If they wanted to fix the drug problems they'd ask why Americans feel the need to use in the first place

[–] TomMasz@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

The criteria for "expert" seems to have devolved into "is alive". Meanwhile, fishermen are being killed for the crime of being on the water with a boat.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago

The U.S. military has ~~killed~~ murdered at least 21 people in recent strikes on small boats off the coast of Venezuela

If I accidentally crash my car into a pedestrian, then I killed him

If I use a ship of ear to fire him to the bottom of the ocean without trial, then I murdered him

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Like the current administration gives a shit about what "experts" have to say. As far as Trumpers are concerned, they're their own experts, and their expertise comes from the fact that they believe they are smarter than everyone else. Or, more accurately, they're extremely insecure and they try to compensate by pretending - by faking it until they make it - at being smart. They do this by simply acting confident in their positions (even if their positions are complete nonsense and verifiably false) and refusing to back down.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Exactly, they are also saying they are fighting battles across the US against ANTIFA, and they won't stop until all are destroyed or captured...

*looks outside

"What war are you fucking talking about?"

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

When the fuck will we (Americans) figure out that the war on drugs won’t work?.. I don’t have the answer but it is easy to see what isn’t..

[–] superniceperson@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

When building fascism one must have an eternal enemy. One that is contradictorily infinitely strong and weak. One that you can never actually eliminate, but one you can always dangle as an absolute visage of fear. Even better if you yourself, as the one building fascism, can create and control said enemy.

The problem with picking an actual race, is you run out of them eventually. If you pick an ideology, well, you cant control its effects or the number of members effectively.

But drugs? And drug 'dealers'? And countries that 'make drugs'? That's an enemy infinitely strong and infinitely weak, one that can be taken out by a drone strike but that will worm its way in anyway, one that you can control just by invading a country and making its farmers grow poppies(afghanistan) or by funding cartels to do it themselves (Colombian gangs still receive cia funding).

And best of all you can get people to blame the victims and whoever you uphold as the source of these drugs, so no one can actually speak out against your regime.

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

This sounds like regular flavor imperialism. Though there is a lot of overlap. With fascism you need an internal enemy which in this governments case is illegal immigrants.

[–] Zagam@piefed.social 5 points 1 week ago

Its not about drugs. Its about for profit prisons staying in business, keeping a voter base down, feeding the class/race divide, and providingva "bad guy" to blame.