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[–] commander@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'll hold off on a new phone to watch for this. Android could be great without Google's nonsense. An OS that has high end hardware support and continues to work on convergence with desktop Linux both by the communities development and Google's

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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 120 points 4 days ago (8 children)

There aren't too many OEMs that sell worldwide. So that would be one of Samsung, Sony, Moto, OnePlus.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 92 points 4 days ago (12 children)
[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 66 points 4 days ago (18 children)

I agree, Motorola is owned by Lenovo. They have found middling success with the return of their Razr line and with phones in the lower to mid tier range. But they really want something super flagship. Something like the Think Phone would have probably sold really well with a Graphene option.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 39 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Device hardware, firmware, and software are integrated to protect your most sensitive data from mobile threats. With Moto KeySafe, PINs, passwords, and cryptographic keys are isolated from other device data for an added layer of high-level security.

Yeah this sounds like what Graphene insists on.

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[–] IBoris@lemmy.world 42 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I hope Sony simply because I want a headphone jack and an MicroSD card reader. Their phones are already pretty bloat free and their custom apps, usually focused on the camera system, would mesh very well with GrapheneOS. Would be a great way for them to become relevant again.

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[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 89 points 4 days ago (1 children)

According to details shared on Reddit, the partnered manufacturer will offer GrapheneOS support on future versions of their existing models, priced similarly to Pixels. These initial devices will feature flagship Snapdragon processors, which GrapheneOS notes provide significantly better CPU and GPU performance compared to Google’s Tensor chips. The Snapdragon platform also bundles high-quality wireless connectivity, eSIM support, and decent image processing capabilities directly into the system-on-chip.

Oh thank you. Let's hope for something nice for a change.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 40 points 4 days ago

This might be it. This might be the alt phone to defeat all others. Flagship chip + graphineOS features and long term support is a killer killer deal.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 26 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Every cell phone manufacturer has some interest in diversifying the operating systems. Because Google develops Android and sells its own cell phones, it has an unfair market edge. And now Google is threatening to filter out apps that it doesn't like which makes the risk even higher.

So we can be sure all of the other major manufacturers of Android phones have considered if they'd like to support other distributions.

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[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 4 days ago (6 children)

I'm skeptical. Even knowing how paranoid Daniel is about, well....everything.

Who remembers the last time a custom ROM got an OEM deal? It is the reason Lineage OS exists today...

[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 44 points 4 days ago (5 children)

With everything Google is doing with Android, they might not have a choice. It's either this or possibly one day no longer being able to work on Graphene.

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[–] sefra1@lemmy.zip 24 points 4 days ago (2 children)

manufacturer will offer GrapheneOS support on future versions of their existing models, priced similarly to Pixels.

Great, so I still won't afford it...

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I paid $120 for each Pixel I own.

I refuse to pay a premium to have the "latest and greatest gadget"

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[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago

Pixels will be supported until EoL. You can get a used Pixel 8a or 9a, which will get supported until May 2031 and April 2032 respectively. Both feature modern, important hardware security features, such as the ARM memory tagging extension.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 37 points 4 days ago

I can't wait to hear more. Please just make a phone that I'll want to buy. My phone is 4 years old and there's just nothing I want to replace it with yet.

It has become less and less of an issue over time though. Not only have I gotten used to using my phone FAR less with positive health results, but I have set myself up to have access to my Linux PC during the "chill with the family on the couch" times in the evening when one might zone out on their phone for a bit. That's what I'm using right now!

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Qualcomm isn't exactly the best vendor to choose either. They're US-based, closely-aligned with the US government as a military contractor, and the baseband/processor are heavily integrated on many chipsets, even sharing memory. That means a compromised carrier network could twiddle bits that the operating system sees, if they so wanted. Among many other issues.

There's something about a Samsung Exynos designed to spec by Google that is actually more desirable even with the lack of compute performance. More fingers in the pot, less chance of some sneakiness working its way in.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 26 points 4 days ago

Let's hope so. This should be my last Pixel if it all plays out like that.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 42 points 4 days ago

About fucking time.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 42 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (15 children)

So who do we think? It's not Fair phone and it sounds like it's not oneplus. I'll be needing a new phone within the next couple of years, if they roll it out soonish

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[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (13 children)

Please be Motorola and put it on my Razr+...

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[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But if google goes on with locking out the app store with the developer verification bs, how would would this play into that? If Aurora won't install the app or the app won't run, then we've accomplished little in that area. I'm really hoping I'm missing something.

[–] kuhli@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Custom ROMs should be able to disable the checks. My bigger concern is what it does to the open app ecosystem as a whole.

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