based on FEX
Hey? Who knew open source projects could be massively profitable and time-saving if a coporation sinks some earnings back into them? And if they swallow that "but what if someone else uses it!?" pride?
...Oh, right.
Valve already knows!
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Yeah I'm excited more about FEX and its implications.
The sideload APK think might have been speculation, or do you have a video with a Valve employee saying so? It could certainly work with Waydroid and some tinkering, but probably not for Android VR games that AFAIK depend on some proprietary Meta stuff most of the time.
Not a video of a Valve employee, but I've read at least a couple articles now quoting Valve as saying it will support Android APKs, although I can imagine that this kind of thing could easily be misinterpreted due to some technical detail. This article mentions it: https://www.theverge.com/news/818672/valve-android-apps-steam-frame
Valve says the Steam Frame can use the same Android APKs developers already use to bring their apps to phones and Android-based VR headsets such as the Meta Quest — and it’s launching a Steam Frame developer kit program to help put the hardware in developers’ hands.
It sounds like Valve is specifically hoping to attract some of those Meta VR game developers, rather than just any kind of Android app you might find on a tablet or phone. “They’re really VR developers who want to publish their VR content, and they’re porting a mobile VR title where they’re already familiar with how to make those APKs,” says Selan. “They are now free to bring those to Steam, and they’ll just work on this device.”
The actual quote mentions porting, and the non-quote claims they're saying "same Android APKs". It definitely sounds like it could be a misinterpretation of what was said, which is disappointing for a popular tech outlet like The Verge.
Edit: now this video has a Valve quote saying (at 26:03) that APKs will be sideloadable like Steam Deck apparently already does. They also say that they expect VR APKs to work if they don't use proprietary APIs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWUxObt1efQ
It certainly will, but it's not going to make gaming on Android APKs anymore possible than it currently is. Running Android apps on Linux has been a thing for a long time.
Right, I'm trying to wrap my head around the idea that Waydroid does some kind of ARM emulation on x86, but now we're talking about ARM software running on ARM hardware. Can Waydroid itself do this if it's run on ARM hardware?
Frame is an ARM architecture, so the same APKs compiled and shipped for phones would work on it without an emulation layer.
Note Valve isn't claiming that APKs will run on ANY SteamOS device or anything universal. They're just saying you wouldn't need alternate arch versions of APKs to run on Frame.
Wouldn't there be at least some Android APIs that they would need to handle too? I wouldn't expect Android APKs to work natively on Linux even on ARM, but perhaps Valve has already addressed that.
That's what Waydroid is essentially. Think of what Wine/Protonndoesnfor Windows, and it's the same for Android. It acts as a "device" as an Android app sees it, and Waydroid provides all the interfaces and input/output control needed for an Android app to run on anything.
Pretty much just an open version of the proprietary Android emu stack developers use in the Android SDK.
You can go and run these things right now yourself, it's nothing new.
Right, I figured that that was probably what Waydroid was. However, I also figured that it does the translation of ARM code to x86 hardware. Is it capable of skipping that translation entirely to run ARM code directly on ARM hardware as it is now? Does it work well? These are the things that I was entirely unsure about because I'm not very familiar with Waydroid. If you know the answer to these, I would love to hear it.
I was watching LTT's video on the Frame today and he was at valve and said the same thing
The sideload APK think might have been speculation, or do you have a video with a Valve employee saying so?
Gamers Nexus quoted Valve here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWUxObt1efQ&t=1545s
This was in a segment about the Steam Frame, which has an ARM CPU. It's unclear whether Valve's quote was referring to that device alone.
LTT mentioned it in his coverage
I would love the ability to run Android apps on my PC.
You're already able to. I wonder whether they're using Waydroid.
Emulators?
Why speculate if we can just wait and see?
Because what's the fun in that?
Why wait when we can speculate now?
Because speculating about future technology is a hobby, and I guess it's better then reading the actual news right now.
Why do people ever talk about something they're looking forward to? I'd even say that talking interests is better than making an average shitpost.