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The best one I've ever heard is they like the Microsoft wallpapers. Yes i told them you can use them on linux too. But they argued with me that they wouldn't be compatible.

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[–] pirateKaiser@sh.itjust.works 97 points 1 week ago (4 children)

A friend of mine finally decided to heed my advice and try it out. He successfully installed fedora and was pleasantly surprised by the 'clean' design (of gnome). He then enabled his Bluetooth headphones and DMed me that they won't connect. The BT menu wouldn't show them.

Now, I wouldn't call him stupid, so I committed a grave sin of troubleshooting when I decided to not offend his intelligence. We hopped on a call and started debugging. Looking at drivers, support for his hardware, logs for any errors... He didn't have another device to connect through BT at the moment and I was out of ideas, so we called it a night and decided to try again tomorrow.

By the time we reconnected the next day, he had already reinstalled windows, but was suffering from the same issue.

And then it downed on me... "Did you pair your headphones?" I asked, afraid of the answer. He just blinked twice and the "what do you mean?" hit me so hard I couldn't even laugh. "I've never had to do that before...."

Some painful explanations later, or an argument really, and his headphones were paired. But by that time he had had enough and didn't want me to bother him about Linux again. Needless to say, pointing out it was his misunderstanding of the technology that ultimately led to this outcome didn't really help.

This memory still injects fury in my veins as I fall asleep, right there with fumbling my words when speaking with my highschool crush...

[–] popekingjoe@lemmy.world 57 points 1 week ago (1 children)

“I’ve never had to do that before…”

Not trying to shit on the guy, but like, that's literally the first thing you do with BT anything. 😄

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I guess that really depends on the equipment though, some devices when you turn it on for the first time will automatically enter pairing mode, so all that had to be done is click it in the bluetooth menu, but it might not auto enter pairing mode when you turn it on after. So it's unlikely the user ever knew they were pairing it, and just clicked through the prompts like many do

[–] popekingjoe@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, no, of course. But that's kinda my point: there was still an initial pairing. I'm not trying to be antagonistic or anything. I just find it a bit silly that one could research how to replace their entire OS with one they're not familiar with but not realize they're gonna have to re-pair their BT devices.

Then again, I think we're all guilty of sometimes missing small details. I once put a PC together for a buddy and couldn't figure out why it wouldn't post only to eventually realize I was a dummy who forgot to plug in the CPU power. 😂

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

We all have been there. First technical build I struggled for 45 minutes trying to figure out why I was getting a zero display whatsoever only to find out that I plugged that damn HDMI cable into the wrong port, and the board had disabled everything including post and splash from using the motherboards port

[–] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He was able to install Linux and Windows but couldn't figure out how to pair a Bluetooth device...

[–] 123@programming.dev 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

TBF Bluetooth sucks a lot. To this day I need to power cycle the phones Bluetooth connection and headphones connect button a few times for it to pair properly some times. Different brands and headphones, silly different issues for all. Want to use your headphones for more that a phone and laptop? Maybe on a third device like a TV or desktop? Fuck you.

[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

People blame everything on whatever the last change was

Went to the mechanic for an oil change and now my AC doesn't work? The mechanic must have fucked my AC while changing my oil!!!!! 1!1!1!1

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[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I find a big part of trying to be the friend that transitions others to Linux is taking on the role of mentor. It’s something a lot of wish we could just hand to someone and dust off our hands, but that ultimately leads to experiences like yours.

For a better chance of success, especially on first install, be on the line with them as they go through the steps, or in person is better yet.

Answer all the questions you can and help them install all their usual stuff. Most people don’t want to have to go through this change, so making it fun and social goes a long way.

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[–] golden_zealot@lemmy.ml 85 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

Most people's reasons in my experience demonstrate to me that they have a perception of Linux as it was 15+ years ago.

I discussed switching to Linux with a group of friends in a voice chat some time ago, most were fairly open to it, and one or two have switched since, but mainly their reasons were time constraints, not wanting to go through the process of backing up files, and finding alternative software.

One guy in particular brought up gaming, MS office, and some other particular software they used. I showed them protondb and every game they looked up was gold or higher, showed them libre office which they could not complain about since it generally works a lot nicer, and it turned out that other software was available as a .deb. After all of this, the reason they gave me was "but I like Windows".

Fair enough I guess, though they couldn't really produce the reason as to why.

Generally, people just don't like any kind of change, even if it has the potential to make them a lot happier.

[–] HouseWolf@pawb.social 35 points 1 week ago (10 children)

not wanting to go through the process of backing up files

This was a big thing when I was helping some people with Windows 10s EOL, A lot of folks just don't have a 2nd drive to back stuff up onto.

As a compulsive data-hoarder the idea of having everything on a single drive with no backup plan, local or "cloud" based... Terrifying! You could write a horror movie about it.

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[–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

After all of this, the reason they gave me was "but I like Windows".

This is the response I normally get as well, which infuriates me to no end, because it isn't an actual reason, it is ultimately their decision, and I feel like they are making a mistake out of laziness or perceived comfort.

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[–] darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"but I like Windows"

I can't imagine any better reason to use Windows than that.

[–] rapchee@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

but they don't know the alternatives
like a child who only eats one type of food but never even touched others

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[–] Yaky@slrpnk.net 65 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Some years ago, mentioning Linux for daily non-gaming use:

Guy: "Installing Linux is complicated though"

Me: "It wasn't bad 10 years ago, and now it's as hard as clicking Next a few times, even faster than Windows"

Guy: "Well duh, you have ten years of experience installing it!"

Difficult to argue with this non-logic.

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[–] mikerr@programming.dev 64 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"Never used Linux," They say, typing on a chromebook or android phone, before picking up their steamdeck.

[–] sibachian@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 week ago

while browsing the web (hosted on linux).

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[–] jaypatelani@lemmy.ml 55 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If it came pre-installed on laptop majority wouldn't mind.

[–] Chais@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago

That's really the crux of it. M$ bought in back in the 80s and people are too damn lazy to change their defaults.

[–] mko@discuss.tchncs.de 41 points 1 week ago

”You can’t trust free software”

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 1 week ago

Devil's advocate here. When people complain about phone calls, or going out in public, or being social, I think "it's not hard." I know for some people it is a massive hassle.

Apply that same sentiment to having to learn an OS that is irrelevant to your job or seems difficult or you're not interested in.

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 week ago (2 children)

My grandfather's reason for it. "It will be too different from my current system"

... the only thing he does is the web browser, and bookworm deluxe which i have confirmed does work via wine. I was recommending him install an OS called q4os, which I have on my laptop, I showed him the side by side comparison of q4os vs windows. For a point of reference this is what q4os looks like a desktop interface of q4OS that is similar to windows XP or 7 in design

I think he is too scared of change.

[–] livingcoder@programming.dev 17 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I still don't know how Wine works and I'm a Linux advocate.

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[–] PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Why you out there telling people to install it? Those who want it will find it. This isn't an evangelical mission.

[–] audaxdreik@pawb.social 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Isn't it?

The arguments of preference and convenience are falling by the wayside as megacorporations take more and more control over not just your hardware but your behavioral patterns by dictating what you can install and how it functions. They suck up all your personal, private data for AI training without your consent.

I get it, shit sucks. It really does, but we have to remember who is to blame here and it's not each other. There has to be some urgency here because this is a battle and we, the consumers, the ordinary people, are surely losing. It's not about being holier than thou, it's about lifting each other up.

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[–] apostate9@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The whatchacallit, terminal with super cryptic commands is too hard. When I go on the internet and say my system has a problem and they tell me to type sudo pacman -Syu, I need something more easier than that. You know like-- with more steps. And five modal GUIs. And buttons.

[–] blackbrook@mander.xyz 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

This was quite a few years ago, but a friend of mine said he'd tried Linux but had switched back because some clipboard feature he was used to using didn't work (sorry, I forget the details). He was a programmer to, so perfectly capable of troubleshooting or finding some alternative tool. I just stared at him dumbfounded.

Sadly its really hard to change habits. But it goes both ways, every time I need to use windows I find myself grunting for every minor thing that doesn't work as expected.

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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (4 children)

"Lack of consensus on pronunciation of name."

And I stand by it.

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[–] Decency8401@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 1 week ago

"Linux isn't made for professional use" - Colleague from Work who is an Apple stan. And yes he bought the Apple™ Cloth for iPhone.

[–] Sludge@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What if the browser doesn't work? It will work.

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[–] HouseWolf@pawb.social 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

A surprising amount of people have put up this mental wall separating "SteamOS" from Linux.

I've had this conversation with multiple people and it's being brought up again because of the Steam Machine announcement.

Some (very few) legitimately didn't know SteamOS was a Linux distro, Or they knew it was based on Linux but thought it used a whole different user ecosystem. Like how Android is technically Linux but using it is nothing like using desktop Linux. These people I've found are more willing to actually look into Linux after someone's explained to them that SteamOS is just Linux. And that there's even SteamOS-like Linux distros you can use right now!

Then you have those who are hard-line about having Official SteamOS. And most of the time they have some misguided believe along the line of, SteamOS is Linux but Valve has fixed all the "Linux issues". And for a lot of them you're probably not going to get far convincing them that mainline Linux isn't just endless command lines these days.

[–] hawgietonight@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

Most silly excuse was my boss refusing to install Linux because he just had a friend give him original windows 98se licenses for the PCs we just bought for the company.

Well it gets less silly thinking that getting the eprom programmer software and orcad 4 working on Linux was probably impossible.

Then it was outright the best decision ever, because those machines never required a reinstall and worked flawless for the 5 years I was there working. Never understood the bad rep W98Se had. Never used it on my personal rigs of course.

[–] ganymede@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago

for alot of people their relationship with windows is like that of an abusive partner. which is why you see alot of the same excuses pop up

[–] SrMono@feddit.org 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In my experience, there are no silly reasons. Most people tend to stick to what they’re familiar with and not to experiment. And that is just fine.

On the other hand there are also other people eager to learn something new. Take your time and invest your energy in them. Show them around. It is a win:win.

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[–] racketlauncher831@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 week ago

"I wanna try out this FreeBSD thing."

[–] mybuttnolie@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

the dumbest reason was that they hate penquins, but the one you can't argue with is that they don't need to because it does all they need it to do

[–] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If the next words out of that foxes mouth arnt a tirade of absolute unfiltered hate towards gnome. Then we goanna have problems. And I think Its time for a nice new fox fur scarf.

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[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Some dude just posted that he's not going to Linux because he can't play Rust on it...

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[–] Gnugit@aussie.zone 12 points 1 week ago

"It's old tech"

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"not polished enough" when comparing to widose

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[–] kosama@socel.net 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

@lordnikon They say "I don't want to code to download an app", but there's actual app stores now on many of the most popular distros.

[–] Infrapink@thebrainbin.org 9 points 1 week ago

Linux and BSD had package managers before Mac did!

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[–] furycd001@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Sometime around 2004, I somehow managed to get a friend to try Linux. They spent an entire weekend compiling a custom kernel just to run some experimental beta driver that might have made Doom 3 somewhat playable on their system. Everything compiled just fine, but whenever they booted up the system, they discovered they had forgotten to re-enable sound support. A recompile fixed that, but performance wasn't what they were expecting. I think they got like 15fps or something like that. After a few weeks of using Linux they reinstalled win-xp....

[–] rapchee@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

that was a pretty valid response in 2004
last few years tho ...

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