Okay, but how many times did he not keel over?
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So I can't actually find anything from a quick search that tells me what "bread poisoning" is. Searches show results for both moldy bread as well as ergotism. Just about every source on the Internet tells me that eating a bunch of moldy bread should just give you a bad case of shits or vomits. But if someone is immunocompromised or has gut issues it could be worse.
But if this was ergot poisoning that's different and doesn't have much to do with ordinary bread mold.
Maybe he keeled over to vom
There are some highly toxic species of mold, although they are much rarer than ordinary mold.
aspergillus niger, hast the aflaxtoxin.
Food is so weird. Bread becomes toxic waste after 8 minutes of being opened, but there's probably some cheese species that gets fermented up the asshole of a mountain llama for 6 months, being stuffed back in after every bowel movement, and is still edible (if you're into that sort of thing) after 400 years of being left in a dank cave amongst the frothing remains of a rotting gerbil cemetery.
Cheese is weird because someone had to be like, well let's go ahead and store some milk in the stomach of an animal, but also they forgot about it under a chair for 3 months and then, upon finding it, thought, "well let's have a go anyway, despite it changing forms." And then eventually someone realized if you stuck it in certain caves it became delicious. So much human history just in that one food product there.
There's a reindeer cheese that is considered a delicacy that has actual maggots in it. Another orange cheese that has fucking mites! I don't mind my stinky cheese, but I'm not eating anything moving.
Casu marzu, "rotten cheese", NSFL. This is sheep's milk, not reindeer, but still. Horrifying.
Thank you for warning me not to click this.
You beautiful bastard that was wonderful!
But grampa was such a fungi
Only if you saw him spore-adically
I'll never forget him and his pet mole "dee"
The breadth of his jokes were astounding.
That's a conversation I've had more than once with my parents:
-- Doing X is fine! Everybody did it in my time and we grew up just fine!
-- Didn't that friend of yours die because of it?
-- Yeah, but he's only a single person, and everybody did X...
Anytime I hear this argument from someone, I tell them to go look up the term, "survivorship bias".
I mean we figured this shit out during WWI, FFS. People need to keep up.
I mean we figured this shit out during WWI
I guess they forgot to teach that in classes since then
Whilst I don't eat mouldy bread intentionally (as in, it will have happened without me noticing on occasion) what's the actual potentially bad thing that happens if one does? Specifically?
There are more types of fungus than any other type of life. Lots of them are mostly harmless. Some of them are a little toxic. Some others are very much toxic. Some others will cause allergies, fungal infection, rare metabolic disorders or all together.
It's the worst kind of lottery, most likely nothing will happen but if something happens it will be pretty uncomfortable. IT IS NOT WORTH IT!
Reminder that, per Wikipedia, aflatoxins - the poisons in molds - "are among the most carcinogenic substances known."
Furthermore, aflatoxin B~1~ can permeate through the skin and its LD~50~ can be as low as 300 µg/kg.
300 migs per kig? Shit, I'll roll the dice on that old manchego slice, I'm a fat cunt.
Are you using "mig" as milligram or microgram? For that to be a term you'd use, I assume you recognize you're responding to a quantity in micrograms.
not all moulds though, it should be noted
What is this, some mycologistic hate speech?
We're an international organization of cheese lovers. Please do not "all molds are harmful" our Brie. Thanks.
I really could go for some Brie now...
some assholes say that we're risk averse.
dumb fuck assholes who think the risk of dying from food poisoning is worth it just to look tough.
Even if penicillin, it tastes awful, and if you don’t need penicillin does it actually help you at all?
I bit bread like this once and I can still vividly taste it.
I ate moldy bread by accident once. Didn't see the side with the mold until after I made the sandwich, I was also high. That one time and tiny amount was one of the most horrible things I've put in my mouth. Spit it out immediately and had PTSD about moldy bread ever since. If I see a tiny bit forming that shit is not going near my mouth, the whole bag is gone.
Really don't understand how anyone could "eat around it" or even eat other slices in the pack. Bread is really cheap, just throw it away. Don't play Russian roulette with foods.
the whole bag is gone
Well, that's how it's supposed to be done. Since mold is a fungus, what shows up on the surface is the reproductive parts that spawn spores, meaning the rest of the bread probably has mold too.
if you don’t need penicillin does it actually help you at all?
No, it has virtually no chance to help you, and most probably can only hurt you.
First, it kills indiscriminately. If you're not sick, what are you killing? Your own healthy gut flora. That's what.
Second, what if you are slightly ill? Guess what? It still probably won't help. Doctors don't just throw penicillin at you in random amounts. They prescribe a specific dose that has been shown to be effective. Having one untested dose of unknown quantity isn't going to help.
Third, when you're given antibiotics, you are told to take it over a number of days, and to take the entire amount, even if you feel better. They do this for several reasons, but one of the reasons is that, if you only kill some of the bacteria, but not enough of them, the remaining bacteria have a small chance to evolve to become resistant to antibiotics. By taking antibiotics without the guidance of a doctor, you have a small chance of making yourself even more ill with antibiotic-resistant bacteria. I want to emphasize that this is a very small chance, but unlikely things will happen when given enough chances.